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Flopped nut flush draw and 2nd pair - UI on river
Villain - 19/13/2.3
I guess I'm wondering here if I can fold out hands that beat me by betting here? Or is check calling a better line to induce a bluff? Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls. Flop: (7.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls. Turn: (7.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls. River: (9.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?? |
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Re: Flopped nut flush draw and 2nd pair - UI on river
I like it, but beware I have a tendency to play my draws overaggressively. However, here's my thoughts:
1. If we re-raise we might fold a hand like QJ in the hands of MP2. This would be no good for us if pfr are holding an overpair/J, but as I see it he could very well be raising AK, gut-shot + overs. 2. If we get called in 2 spots we can safely assume we're behind and drawing. The raise was still probably for value though, since we're likely to hold at least 12 outs on average (~46% equity). The danger is if we're up against a set in which case we'll get capped. Still, since we're holding the T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] all our flush outs are live, but we're facing a great re-draw making this a -EV 3-bet, especially if MP2 folds. But we're not up against a set enough for making this a concern IMO. 3. We don't have a good relative position for a c/r on the turn if we hit anyway, so playing passive on the flop has less value. 4. Calling 2 cold on the flop makes it easy for the opponents to put us on a fd. EDIT: Just as CDC said we should be betting this flop in the first place. |
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Re: Flopped nut flush draw and 2nd pair - UI on river
bet.
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Re: Flopped nut flush draw and 2nd pair - UI on river
Raise Preflop.
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Re: Flopped nut flush draw and 2nd pair - UI on river
I am puzzled by this hand. You bet the flop aggressively, presumably to buy a free card on the turn. However, you led out on the turn even when no club fell. From the betting, I would guess that the flop helped your opponent a lot. Check/folding on the river is how I would play
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Re: Flopped nut flush draw and 2nd pair - UI on river
Bet/call the flop so you can trap MP1. Bet turn. Bet/fold river.
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Re: Flopped nut flush draw and 2nd pair - UI on river
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I am puzzled by this hand. You bet the flop aggressively, presumably to buy a free card on the turn. However, you led out on the turn even when no club fell. [/ QUOTE ] He's getting a free card close to 0% of the time OOP and I don't think that was his intent at all. |
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Re: Flopped nut flush draw and 2nd pair - UI on river
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I am puzzled by this hand. You bet the flop aggressively, presumably to buy a free card on the turn. However, you led out on the turn even when no club fell. From the betting, I would guess that the flop helped your opponent a lot. Check/folding on the river is how I would play [/ QUOTE ] he was raising for value there since he had such a good chance to improve. he might still be ahead on the river. |
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