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Old 11-03-2005, 12:07 PM
PJM1206 PJM1206 is offline
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Default Re: Value betting question - with hands

Are you raising because you think those are good cards to raise with OR is it mostly because you have position? Only one limper in front? or both? would you raise with 2 or 3 limpers?
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Old 11-03-2005, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: Value betting question - with hands

Woops

hand 1: I lead out betting flop turn and river

hand two I do the same thing lead out on flop turn and river
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Old 11-03-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Value betting question - with hands

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Are you raising because you think those are good cards to raise with OR is it mostly because you have position? Only one limper in front? or both? would you raise with 2 or 3 limpers?


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I think that hand will hit a lot of flops. I think that the limper is probably weak, so I want to isolate him and get the blinds to fold. And yes b/c we have great position.
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Value betting question - with hands

Hand 1: is good, but you could have made another value bet on the turn, as well as the river.

Hand 2: If BB is not tricky, go ahead and bet this river. Would you fold to a raise?
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: Value betting question - with hands

I play both hands the exact same except I bet the river in the second.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:11 PM
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Default Re: Value betting question - with hands

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I play both hands the exact same except I bet the river in the second.

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Checking the flop in the first hand is bad you guys. You have the best hand a TON of the time, and the other dude can't fold if you don't bet.

I didn't notice it in my first post; I thought Hero bet the flop and then gave up on the turn.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:12 PM
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I play both hands the exact same except I bet the river in the second.

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Checking the flop in the first hand is bad you guys. You have the best hand a TON of the time, and the other dude can't fold if you don't bet.

I didn't notice it in my first post; I thought Hero bet the flop and then gave up on the turn.

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I also missed the value bet on the flop in hand 1. Second pair is often good HU.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: Value betting question - with hands

grunch

hand 1: given your read i think this is perfect
against most players i think you need to continuation bet tho

hand 2: bet the river. nothing in this hand could possibly indicate he holds a 7. you should be a thousand times more scared of a hand like KT being played passively (although its still an easy value bet)
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: Value betting question - with hands

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On the first hand I value bet 2nd pair on the river against a weak calling station type who just refuses to fold on the end even with nothing but Jack high.

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So, why did you check the flop and the turn? Bet it. If you don't hit anything by the river, you can check/call.

Hand 2: Raise preflop. You've got excellent position with a decent hand and only one limper. Bet the river.
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