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Old 11-03-2005, 12:40 AM
betgo betgo is offline
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Default Holdem/foldem challenge

20-table SNG. No reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG+1 (t12849)
Hero (t10224)
MP2 (t2072)
CO (t9635)
Button (t8456)
SB (t3718)
BB (t3745)
UTG (t36875)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls t1200, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t2575) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t2000</font>, Button calls t2000.

Turn: (t6575) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t5231 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: Holdem/foldem challenge

Did I leave the oven on?

(walks to the fridge, opens and asks Chris Ferguson)

Folds em.

But this seems too obvious to me and I know you're a good player and I'm not.

At this point you're still at 7K chips which is enough to bully the 3K chips around and play back at the larger stacks. If you lose, you're down to about 1800 and pretty much crippled.

He called your preflop raise and your flop bet. The only hand(s) I could see him doing this with would be pocket pairs or paint spades other than King or a King. I don't know if he'd pull a Stillman and call a raise with small pockets or not, but I think the chances of you being behind here and the situation you wind up in if you lose outweigh the odds you're still good at this point.

If I'm too weak-tight, I'd love to find out.

T
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:35 AM
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I fold.
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: Holdem/foldem challenge

Hmmm... I put opponent on bluff, flush draw, AK-KJ, Axs, or pockets.

It it unusual for opponent to cold call a raise?

Because if it is then it is an easy fold.

How aggressive is opponent? I don't think there are many that call flop bet trying to take pot on turn, but there are some I guess.

It is weird that opponent pushed when checked to, that looks like flush draw. But the possibility of being way behind here is too much to call without read of opponent as desperate.

On the balance, I'd fold here.
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:41 AM
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Hard to see you being ahead of too many hands that would've called the pre-flop raise and flop bet here. Maybe Ax of Spades.

Best case scenario: You're ahead but could still lose.

Worst case scenario: You're dead to an 8.

Fold'em
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Holdem/foldem challenge

I fold but I'm guessing you had the best hand or this wouldn't be interesting [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Old 11-03-2005, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Holdem/foldem challenge

I think I usually fold here, but feel some discomfort that I may be folding to a draw.

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Old 11-03-2005, 02:24 AM
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I call. AK seems way too unlikely with his no reriase preflop with that stack, and KQo is possible but eould be a pretty bad preflop call. That obviously does not mean he doesnt have it. Im more afraid of 99 then anything else. I think flush draw is possible too.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:40 AM
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Hold 'em
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:52 AM
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Hold 'em

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