Whats the ruling ?

[SoloAJ]

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I wonder why everyone thinks that UTG is the one pulling the angle-shot. I would guess that, if BB had AA instead of 77, or if UTG didn't have KK, BB wouldn't be the one complaining about the size of the bet.

The common sense thing to do (though not exactly in line with Robert's Rules) is make BB's bet $2000. Reason? He asked for a count and was told $2000. IMO, BB called a $2000 bet. To rule otherwise is to reward BB, who seems to be more upset that he's an 80/20 dog.

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How does this not seem liek an angle shot from UTG to you? He "miscounted" for nearly double his chips. I still think he is WANTING a call there, obviously. So he probably was counting lower to induce the call. And you ARE right...if BB had AA, then the UTG would complain, but guess what...that is because his angleshot failed.

This is a 2,000 hand played as it is allin. And while we don't really know stacks, I have trouble believing the BB with 77 says he wouldnt have called the 3800 but would call the 2000. He had a read, and missed....So yes, he is playing slimy too imo. Is it possible they both angle shot? (Maybe 77 guy noticed KK guy had more, but would wait to say anything until after he won the hand)

People have no class anymore.

You're probably right, they're both shooting an angle.

That's why treating it as a $2000 bet is the fairest solution. UTG doesn't get the advantage of having BB's extra $1800. And BB doesn't get the benefit of having his $2000 handed back to him after finding out he's a huge underdog.