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  #101  
Old 11-02-2005, 12:58 AM
Kevmath Kevmath is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (11/1) (300/500 NL, again)

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http://www.whizzinator.com/

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Somehow I don't think Onterrio Smith is endorsing the product.
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  #102  
Old 11-02-2005, 02:25 AM
CheckRaise CheckRaise is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (11/1) (300/500 NL, again)

He is now referred to as Onterio Spliff around these parts.
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  #103  
Old 11-02-2005, 02:37 AM
kchammer kchammer is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (11/1) (300/500 NL, again)

is it over
i cant seem to get it to launch keep getting the sample video
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  #104  
Old 11-02-2005, 05:27 AM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: Yay!

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blue=$1
yellow=$5
brown=$10
green=$20
purple=$25

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In LA greens are $2. Blacks are $20. Don't play big enough to really remember the chips about $100.

~ Rick
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:29 AM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (11/1) (300/500 NL, again)

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Let me take a stab here...

SHOWING your hand... Then calling...

EV-

That was mind boggling.

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I agree. My eyebrow raised so much it's now stuck.

~ Rick
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  #106  
Old 11-02-2005, 05:38 AM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (11/1) (300/500 NL, again)

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When?

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F_U Russ. I opened up and managed to win $6 despite being completely card dead. Maybe should have slow played my AQ on a queen high flop and my A7 two pair but to win the huge pots you generally need to put in some money on the flop. I'm fairly sure most of my laydowns were correct, absent information you guys had. Even if an opponent blew me off a hand it was for a small pot where all my chips were at risk had I played on.

~ Rick
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Old 11-02-2005, 12:18 PM
cwsiggy cwsiggy is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (11/1) (300/500 NL, again)

Damn, sounds like I missed a good show.
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  #108  
Old 11-02-2005, 03:19 PM
Russ McGinley Russ McGinley is offline
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Default Re: \"Official\" Live at the Bike thread (11/1) (300/500 NL, again)

I can't believe that guy called your UTG raise with A3s when you had KK. That was pretty bad.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:57 PM
Rick Nebiolo Rick Nebiolo is offline
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Default Interesting rule question and angle possibility

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I can't believe that guy called your UTG raise with A3s when you had KK. That was pretty bad.

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And he's one of the tighter players at the table. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I did take a few notes. Would like your or other Live@Bike posters opinions on this one:

At 6:42pm (47 minutes into the web-cast) seat 7 of perhaps seat 8 bets big on the turn or flop. Seat 3 tanks for about thirty seconds. Now seat 3 exposes 77 with forward motion (about four inches) then pulls back his hand to consider calling (I believe he eventually folds). Nothing was made of this but it got me thinking about what could have happened (I've posted a lot on problems with NL rules/betting and so on in the B&M and NVG forum).

Exposing hands when facing a bet in holdem is still OK in most cardrooms but NOT with forward motion. Was this enough forward motion? What if seat 7/8 tosses his hand in when he sees the forward motion. Now seat 3 tries to claim the pot by calling with the only live hand. Seat 7/8 screams for the floor claiming he folded (probably with a bluffing hand) because he thought seat 3 conceded. How do you rule as a floorman. How do you play this as seat 7/8 if you are in fact running a bluff?

The archives will help me get the details right and if there is interest perhaps I'll post something.

~ Rick
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Old 11-02-2005, 05:30 PM
Russ McGinley Russ McGinley is offline
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Default Re: Interesting rule question and angle possibility

I'm pretty sure forward motion is binding if someone calls the player on it. There was an issue on the WSOP broadcast this week when Matusow put a stack of chips forward, then pulled them back, probably trying to get a reaction. Nobody called him on it. I think the floor should have probably mentioned that any forward motion with your chips or cards can be binding and that he needs to be careful.
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