Need feedback on calling with a scary board

[Aximillian]

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I'm also thinking that a bluff raise on either the flop or the turn would have probably been a better play for me, since my hand was so weak against the board.
If you bluff raise the turn, you are committing a lot of money on the off chance that nobody can beat you. I think you have to bluff raise the flop or fold it and move on.

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Yea, that's more of what I was thinking. Thanks

[Nate tha' Great]

I think you either need to fold on the flop or, if you think there is a high probability that MP is bluffing or betting a flush draw, 3-bet the flop.

If he's caught anything on the board, you're drawing to four outs against one opponent, and those outs are not guaranteed to be clean. That's not a good position in which to be calling.

My guess is that he had ace-no-kicker, which you are still way behind.

[Aximillian]

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Now MP seems to be an ok player but I've seen him bet into scary flops with just high cards.

Think about this statement for a minute. Which "just high cards" could he be betting into a preflop raiser that you can beat?

I'm well ahead of the game at this point (almost doubled my money) and I took that into consideration as well while I was calling.

This is a major leak.

Blank, He bets, I call. Based on my previous thoughts, I'm in the same position as the flop. Does anyone think I should raise here to see where he stands? I don't think I want to call a re-raise and that's the main reason why I called.

What position? What 2 cards can he hold that you're even drawing live against? OK, if he's aggressive enough to bet TT into this board you have 6 outs. If you don't want to raise because you fear a reraise, why are you even putting one bet in?

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

I would put in one raise on the flop....but I'm weak tight.

Weak-tight players do not raise KQ when bet into on a AJJ board.

[Joe Tall]

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dominating the rest of the hand.


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Axi, watch out for 'Positive' tilt, it used to grab me all the time.

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because he would have re-raised preflop with AJ

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Does this mean he limp-re-raises w/AJ or does it mean that he would have open-raised w/AJ?

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Either way, I call because I have outs to make a straight and I still have two overcards to the Jacks

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This is where you have to take several things into consideration. First you have to ask yourself some questions:

Are my outs clean?
What are my outs?
What are my pot odds?
Do I have the correct odds to call?

I see you don't fear the full-house; which is a likely assesment. However, you are getting 8:1 on your flop call and if he has an ace you'll need the gut shot Queen to win which is an 11:1 shot. In addition, if he limped w/a hand like QJs you are drawing dead. I think you have to fold on the flop here.

Now, if this player is capable of making a move on you here by betting into a the preflop raiser on a scary board, then raise the flop and represent something big. Other than that I think you have a clear fold.

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I could also point out that I'm well ahead of the game at this point (almost doubled my money) and I took that into consideration as well while I was calling.

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As I've expected, you've got a case of the "I'm running-good" positive-tilt here. Try not to let weather you are up or down influence your play.

Welcome to the forum,
Joe Tall

[Joe Tall]

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But I also said that I've seen this guy bet into pots with nothing.

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Then you should have raised the flop and folded to a re-raise.

Peace,
JT

[ThingDo]

Wooooops! Misread the hand.... god... this is what happens when yous stay up all night.

[ThingDo]

I read KK... jesus christ. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]