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But I am sure he will call with almost any hand. For example I dont think he will fold 87s to a push pre flop.
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But I am sure he will call with almost any hand. For example I dont think he will fold 87s to a push pre flop. [/ QUOTE ]which means you're a favourite. |
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[ QUOTE ] But I am sure he will call with almost any hand. For example I dont think he will fold 87s to a push pre flop. [/ QUOTE ]which means you're a favourite. [/ QUOTE ] youre kinda totally missing the point.... |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] But I am sure he will call with almost any hand. For example I dont think he will fold 87s to a push pre flop. [/ QUOTE ]which means you're a favourite. [/ QUOTE ] youre kinda totally missing the point.... [/ QUOTE ]he's getting his opponents to put his chips in as a dog |
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I dont think by pushing I am getting my opponent to put chips in with a dog.
If he was raising 22+,A2s+,K8s+,Q8s+,J8s+,T7s+,97s+,86s+,75s+,65s,A2 o+,K8o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T7o+,97o+,86o+,75o+,65o, which is about top 45% and calling my push with all of this hands I am a 43.6% dog. |
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But he will still call with an ace and better kings.
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[ QUOTE ] But I am sure he will call with almost any hand. For example I dont think he will fold 87s to a push pre flop. [/ QUOTE ]which means you're a favourite. [/ QUOTE ] 1. Obviously you're not just running into 87s, you'll also run into hands that are much better than this. Even against the 87s, you're only 52% (if they're suited in a different suit from your K and 5). 2. Winning his 200 chips without a showdown is much better than going all in as a 52% favorite, even though "you are a favorite." We're looking for the best way to do this. I'm personally not very proficient at the stop-and-go and don't use it very much, but I see nothing wrong with using it here. Experts' opinions? -SonnyJay |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] But I am sure he will call with almost any hand. For example I dont think he will fold 87s to a push pre flop. [/ QUOTE ]which means you're a favourite. [/ QUOTE ] 1. Obviously you're not just running into 87s, you'll also run into hands that are much better than this. Even against the 87s, you're only 52% (if they're suited in a different suit from your K and 5). 2. Winning his 200 chips without a showdown is much better than going all in as a 52% favorite, even though "you are a favorite." We're looking for the best way to do this. I'm personally not very proficient at the stop-and-go and don't use it very much, but I see nothing wrong with using it here. Experts' opinions? -SonnyJay [/ QUOTE ]i'm not saying a stop and go is wrong, but when you're throwing in the rest of your stack on a stop n go, you're essentially freerolling him to stack you when he hits, yet he folds if he's behind. i'm not sure if this is the best situation for it. |
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you're essentially freerolling him to stack you when he hits, yet he folds if he's behind. i'm not sure if this is the best situation for it. [/ QUOTE ] Well, this concept is true of any stop-and-go. The idea is that he'll fold when he misses, plus any bonuses of him folding when he hits on an ugly flop (he has T9 on a 9KA board...will he call?) Of course, you also account for the times when he "sniffs out the stop-and go" and calls with AK on the ragged flop. I've got midterms tomorrow and don't really feel like doing the math, but I think the idea is that against a typical opponent this is better than taking your likely 55-45 at best situation as a preflop all in. This seems like one of those situations. -SonnyJay |
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i'm not saying a stop and go is wrong, but when you're throwing in the rest of your stack on a stop n go, you're essentially freerolling him to stack you when he hits, yet he folds if he's behind. i'm not sure if this is the best situation for it. [/ QUOTE ] if this is the case, then a stop n go is never right. |
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