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10-27-2005, 12:36 AM
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Re: Running it multiple times
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[ QUOTE ] It's standard in whatever cardroom allows it. If you win twice, you get 2/3rds of the pot. Reduced variance but doesn't change the odds(only very very slightly as they don't reshuffle) [/ QUOTE ] It does not change the odds (EV) at all, whether they re-shuffle or not, provided of course that they decide beforehand whether to re-shuffle. [/ QUOTE ] Uh this is wrong? Lets say nut flush draw vs. top pair on the flop decide to run it 3 times. Flush draw is 2 to 1 dog and hits his suit on the turn and river. No shuffle. He now has 2 less flush cards when they run it the 2nd and 3rd. It varies on edge, sometimes people will flip their cards over say a pair with flush draw and you have a set. Well now you know that you have 1 less card that pairs the board. It's small edges but it's something you always consider 
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#2
10-27-2005, 12:47 AM
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Re: Running it multiple times
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It's standard in whatever cardroom allows it. If you win twice, you get 2/3rds of the pot. Reduced variance but doesn't change the odds(only very very slightly as they don't reshuffle) [/ QUOTE ] It does not change the odds (EV) at all, whether they re-shuffle or not, provided of course that they decide beforehand whether to re-shuffle. [/ QUOTE ] Uh this is wrong? Lets say nut flush draw vs. top pair on the flop decide to run it 3 times. Flush draw is 2 to 1 dog and hits his suit on the turn and river. No shuffle. He now has 2 less flush cards when they run it the 2nd and 3rd. It varies on edge, sometimes people will flip their cards over say a pair with flush draw and you have a set. Well now you know that you have 1 less card that pairs the board. It's small edges but it's something you always consider [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand your argument, but the fact is, the EV changes not one iota when you run it multiple times with no reshuffle. It's an easy theorem to prove.
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#3
10-27-2005, 12:50 AM
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Re: Running it multiple times
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It's standard in whatever cardroom allows it. If you win twice, you get 2/3rds of the pot. Reduced variance but doesn't change the odds(only very very slightly as they don't reshuffle) [/ QUOTE ] It does not change the odds (EV) at all, whether they re-shuffle or not, provided of course that they decide beforehand whether to re-shuffle. [/ QUOTE ] Uh this is wrong? Lets say nut flush draw vs. top pair on the flop decide to run it 3 times. Flush draw is 2 to 1 dog and hits his suit on the turn and river. No shuffle. He now has 2 less flush cards when they run it the 2nd and 3rd. It varies on edge, sometimes people will flip their cards over say a pair with flush draw and you have a set. Well now you know that you have 1 less card that pairs the board. It's small edges but it's something you always consider [/ QUOTE ] The flush draw has lower EV on the remaining draws after he has won the first one, but higher EV on the remaining draws after he has lost on the first one. It all balances out exactly.
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