Interesting dueces hand

vhuntd · #1 10-26-2005, 02:38 AM

How's this line? Now suppose that the river wasn't a deuce...is there a bet there then?

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, Button raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets, MP2 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, BB folds, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, UTG+2 folds.

River: (10.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

WordWhiz · #2 10-26-2005, 02:46 AM

I really don't like this line at all. What do you think you're beating when someone bets into a pfr on this board? He might be betting a flush draw (which he has a good chance of hitting anyway), but he could be betting a medium pocket pair or a 3 or a 4, or the pfr might have a big pp rather than just overcards and reraise you.

Turn looks bad too, as you might get c/r by a made flush or straight.

As to your river question: I don't see button calling this down with A high with this much action, so no, I don't bet the river if a deuce doesn't hit. He'll fold his AK or AQ or whatever, but make a crying call with AA-JJ, drop his jaw as the pot is pushed his way, and make a note that MP3 is a donkey who bets an unimproved 22 like it's the stone cold nuts.

#3 10-26-2005, 02:49 AM

Well, it looked like you basically sucked out on this hand.

Why the fancy play on this hand? You don't have any fold equity raising. You are drawing to a full house and a back door straight (the bottom end of a one card straight).

Do you think that UTG+1 or button is going to fold? Both players are either on better draws or already have better made hands, even if they are weakish. Button may have overcards, so the better draw still applies here.

This is an easy check/fold on the flop.

vhuntd · #4 10-26-2005, 03:13 AM

all true...i titlted my way into a monster...

TomBrooks · #5 10-26-2005, 03:18 AM

I just call the flop.

J. Stew · #6 10-26-2005, 03:36 AM

I don't think folding the flop is bad, some reads would help. Why is utg+2 betting. Would he bet a flush draw into the pf raiser? I think there's a good chance you're behind to either utg+2 or the button. The way you played it, I wouldn't bet the turn after the button called two cold. I'd check/fold the turn and be happy if I saw the river.

#7 10-26-2005, 03:41 AM

*grunch*
I fold the flop.

toss · #8 10-26-2005, 04:24 AM

Raising is better than calling. Folding is probably best. Even is we beat what UTG is betting out with (which may be a fair amount depending on his stats), we're going to get outdrawn a great deal.