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Old 10-24-2005, 12:44 AM
RustyCJ RustyCJ is offline
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Default AJo, flop bet ok?

a bit of an ugly win, I was almost 50/50 whether to bet the flop or not but with only 2 opponents I went for it.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (4.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (6.20 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12.20 BB
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

I think you have ~ 10.5 outs or so.. definitely getting over 33%, so go for it.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

looks good. i usually take the same line. just looking for opponents to fold on the flop when it misses.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

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I think you have ~ 10.5 outs or so.. definitely getting over 33%, so go for it.

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explain where you got 10.5 outs
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

I think you're greatly overestimating your outs here. I'd give 4 for the gutshot, 1.5 for the Ace, and 1.5 for the BDFD - for a total of 6. With that said, thought, I would probably still bet this flop if I thought there was a good chance one or both would fold.

Edit - clearly I'm terrible at math... make that seven outs.
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

im getting 7.5

where are all of your outs?
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Old 10-24-2005, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

hrm.. 1.5 outs for the BDFD, 3 Aces, 4 Queens, maybe 1.5 for the Jack. You think he could be against a better Ace?
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

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hrm.. 1.5 outs for the BDFD, 3 Aces, 4 Queens, maybe 1.5 for the Jack. You think he could be against a better Ace?

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We could be reverse dominated. And IMO the jacks aren't worth 1.5 outs.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:03 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

Flop bet is fine. It's a coordinated high board so there's less chance to get everyone to fold, but there's still the chance. Plus 7ish outs to improve and the chance for a free card.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: AJo, flop bet ok?

I think you were okay with the flop bet. You had the position and about 7 outs even if someone had a K.

The turn bet could have been a disaster if someone was on the draw.

Looking at the river, I would guess BB was a calling station with a T. Tripped his T's on the river and ran into your str.
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