$650 - Diablo didn't know what I should do here...

[Yeti]

Thanks.

I remember I was 8th. I forgot to mention this this important piece of information.

[Ulysses]

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but you aren't *that* close to the money and I'd be surprised if you can just fold into it.

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How would you generally quantify these considerations?

[ChrisW]

It seems to me that good satellite play against aware opponents involves winning the race to the center, since hands which are big favorites against your move-in range may be forced to fold by tournament conditions. Basically, the only players who can profitably call a medium stack's move-in are desparate short stacks or medium stacks with AA (maybe KK if the original raiser is loose). Here, a medium stack is about 2/3 to qualify, maybe slightly more, so it would want to be 75% or so against the raiser's range to call off all (or most) of its chips.

Thus, a medium stack who opens for 1/4 of his chips here should be looking for a confrontation. How can he make this play with AK and let e.g. JJ beat him into the pot? He's now forced to surrender 1/4 of his chips or to take a 43% shot, an EV disaster either way. So, against an aware player it seems that you should open-fold QQ here.

[bugstud]

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but you aren't *that* close to the money and I'd be surprised if you can just fold into it.

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How would you generally quantify these considerations?

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well he has to outlast so many busts that he'll need to steal some money to maintain his realative stack.

My personal inclination is to push, because I think a medium amount of the time he mucks and your stack is that much healthier. Then again, my record in these things is rather subpar.

[Ulysses]

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Then again, my record in these things is rather subpar.

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Mine too. I'm the king of bubbling sats, which is highly profitable (my hourly rate in sats is sky-high), but obviously not what I'm looking for. I've gotten pretty unlucky late, but I suspect that I've probably also started protecting a decent-sized stack a little too early.

Was kinda wondering if people had some rules of thumb re: "safe" amounts late in the game and what level of gamble to take at various levels of "safety."

[REL18]

I also thought this was a clear push but after your explanation i change my mind to push any non a k or 3 sooted connecting cards on the flop