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Old 10-23-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Does Party Blackjack Affect MGR

To answer some questions:
1. I'm not playing blackjack, the question was from the point of view of affiliates who's players play blackjack.
2. My question wasn't about how it affects rakeback, it as about how it effects MGR.
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Old 10-23-2005, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Does Party Blackjack Affect MGR

This is kind of irrelevent but the funny thing about this is that BJ can be +EV. You sign up under an affiliate who is your accomplice. Now you bet $200 (I'll just assume 2 outcomes for simplicity's sake i.e. ignoring splitting, doubling dow so the EV is 0.49*$200-0.51*$160 = $16.4
where I assumed 2% house edge. So affiliates should tell all their players to do it! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:13 PM
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This is kind of irrelevent but the funny thing about this is that BJ can be +EV. You sign up under an affiliate who is your accomplice. Now you bet $200 (I'll just assume 2 outcomes for simplicity's sake i.e. ignoring splitting, doubling dow so the EV is 0.49*$200-0.51*$160 = $16.4
where I assumed 2% house edge. So affiliates should tell all their players to do it! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Yeah I was tryign to figure this out too, there's gotta be some flaw that we're not seeing. Something to do with the fact that it only pays out once per month or something. If a previous month results in a negative MGR does that take away from a new month? It would have to, otherwise Party really would be opening itself to scams like this.
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:18 PM
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crazy... the affiliate participates in wins and losses... if you win $200, it costs the affiliate $40. (ie they are partners, if you win, you've won $160 from Party and $40 from the affiliate; and if you lose, you've lost $160 to Party and $40 to the affiliate)
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:53 PM
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crazy... the affiliate participates in wins and losses... if you win $200, it costs the affiliate $40. (ie they are partners, if you win, you've won $160 from Party and $40 from the affiliate; and if you lose, you've lost $160 to Party and $40 to the affiliate)

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Where does it say the affiliate covers your wins?
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:59 PM
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crazy... the affiliate participates in wins and losses... if you win $200, it costs the affiliate $40. (ie they are partners, if you win, you've won $160 from Party and $40 from the affiliate; and if you lose, you've lost $160 to Party and $40 to the affiliate)

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Where does it say the affiliate covers your wins?

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The affiliates are sharing 20% of the revenue, whether it's positive or negative. This is the same way most online casinos calculate their affiliate commissions.
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Old 10-23-2005, 03:07 PM
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crazy... the affiliate participates in wins and losses... if you win $200, it costs the affiliate $40. (ie they are partners, if you win, you've won $160 from Party and $40 from the affiliate; and if you lose, you've lost $160 to Party and $40 to the affiliate)

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Where does it say the affiliate covers your wins?

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The affiliates are sharing 20% of the revenue, whether it's positive or negative. This is the same way most online casinos calculate their affiliate commissions.

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And how does that make it +EV? Doesn't it just reduce the HA by 20%?
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Old 10-23-2005, 03:15 PM
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Ron...

Its not +EV for the player, crazy is... crazy wrong!
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Old 10-24-2005, 10:57 AM
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crazy... the affiliate participates in wins and losses... if you win $200, it costs the affiliate $40. (ie they are partners, if you win, you've won $160 from Party and $40 from the affiliate; and if you lose, you've lost $160 to Party and $40 to the affiliate)

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Where does it say the affiliate covers your wins?

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Nowhere does it say this.
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Old 10-24-2005, 01:30 PM
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Nowhere does it say this, if basic addition and subtraction are too hard for you to understand.

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