100/200 hand

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Any halfway decent, aggressive opponent will c/r this flop with any 2 cards against a preflop 3-bettor; this is especially true if he's flopped a flush draw or even gutshot.

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I'm not a halfway decent, aggressive player, but of course, I want to become one. So, can anybody explain me, why this is a check-raise on the flop with a draw or with nothing? Is this some kind of free-card play out of position? Is this flop with two high cards suitable for a bluff against a preflop 3-bettor?

Concerning the hand, I considered at first hero to have JJ. But in this case, maybe a check-raise on the turn would have been better to make a queen fold, but, if called, to check through the river UI or fold to a bet, thinking villain to hold an Ace. Is this correct?

...Ups, sorry, just found out, that this post is quite old. But I'm hoping for answers, so I post my reply nevertheless. Anywhere, where is the solution?

[MEbenhoe]

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What does Hero have? Why did he play the hand this way?

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if you really want an educated answer to this question you left out some much needed information, such as how many players are at the table, how has the table been playing lately, what is Hero's table image, how has villian been playing lately, how does he play preflop/postflop(sLAG is such a generic term), etc.

[nfscreech]

He has something like TT.

He doesn't want to get raised on the flop.
He wants to get to showdown as cheaply as possible.

[Harv72b]

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I'm not a halfway decent, aggressive player, but of course, I want to become one. So, can anybody explain me, why this is a check-raise on the flop with a draw or with nothing? Is this some kind of free-card play out of position? Is this flop with two high cards suitable for a bluff against a preflop 3-bettor?

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The latter. Of the hands Hero (or any other normal player) is 3-betting with second in from MP, most of them don't like this flop. KK, JJ, TT, 99, etc really don't like it. AK isn't even all that happy about it, because they realize the distinct possibility that the EP raiser has AQ (or 77). AK probably won't fold, but a lot of those hands, particularly JJ-99, likely will. So, if UTG+1 has (for example) 99, a flop c/r has a fairly high chance of folding out a better hand. The same holds true if he has KJs (and if it's suited to spades, he actually has pretty good equity on this flop).

Then when you get into second- and third level thinking, a player with AQ might check/raise the flop hoping that the preflop 3-bettor will suspect a bluff and 3-bet the flop or raise the turn with a worse hand. For Hero, checking through the flop avoids the possibility of being check/raised and enables him to get to showdown for 2 BBs, or if he prefers, to spend those 2 BBs with a turn raise and maybe fold a hand like AJ or KQ (although folding KQ wouldn't be a good thing if Hero has KK).

The only thing I can figure out is that Hero sat down at the wrong table and didn't realize it until the flop.

In all seriousness, I don't know...

I'll make an educatd guess. You have JJ and there is a %50 chacne that LAG has Aces or queens based on careful observations of his/her play. Or, you have Kx (particularly KQ) with the knowledge LAG may be playing in this manner with any two cards.

[jediael]

Hero has KK.

[ellipse_87]

Assuming for argument's sake that hero holds KK and has checked the flop to elude an auto-check-raise on that street, doesn't he raise-fold on the turn? This costs him the same as a showdown if he's facing an A, extracts more value from a Q, and has him very rarely laying down best hand (I feel villain would not have earned the label "semi"-LAG if he had the capacity to three-bet with just a Q on this turn).

The fact that an advanced player like Jason didn't pull this move on the turn decreases the likelihood of KK, in my view. But I'd be interested in hearing contrary opinions.

I'm still working on my own guess.

[callmedonnie]

I'm thinking either kings or jacks. I haven't seen what a 100/200 game looks like, but I'm sure its tough. Glad to see you moved from 2/4. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[ellipse_87]

I have hero with 99, TT, or JJ. I just have a feeling that we would have seen more action with a queen (or KK), given villain's loose pfr standards.

I discount spades because the only call-down for hero would have been KsXs. If hero has this, then he knows that villain is not semi-bluffing with spades, since villain can't have the A, K, or Q of spades. (He can have As, but he's not semi-bluffing then.) That leaves only a gut-shot semi-bluff for villain, which would necessarily involve one of the other Kings, and hero wouldn't call down on the flimsy basis of maybe having a better kicker.

As a semi-LAG, villain's range pre-flop (calling a 3-bet) is JJ-77, AQ-AT, KQ-KT. If hero has, say, JJ, then there are 96 combos in villain's range, 51 of which beat JJ.* The action tilts villain's range more towards the A's and Q's, which would support an educated guess by hero that he's ahead of villain a little better than 1/3 of the time. Hero gets 11.5-4 effective odds to check the flop and call down the final two streets. 99 would be slightly -EV, TT a toss up at best, so...

JJ it is.

* JJ 1
TT 6
99 6
88 3
77 3
AQ 9
AJ 12
AT 12
KQ 12
KJ 16
KT 16