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Confused with TT
Party 5/10 6-max
I have T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] in SB. UTG limps, TAG raises, 1 cold call, 1 fold, I 3 bet, BB calls, all call. Everyone but the TAG is pretty loose passive. 5 to the flop. Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I bet and get 2 callers, the TAG and one other folded. I was going to fold to a raise (or peel and check fold the turn). Turn: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I bet, both call. I was going to fold to a raise. River: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I check planning on calling one bet, even if I have to overcall. Did I botch this one? Should I have given up somewhere? Bet the river? What's going on preflop? I'm pretty sure I win more than my fair share, so there's value in my 3-bet, but is this going to be easier to play if I just call? ZZZ |
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Re: Confused with TT
I think I check fold the river. Especially if you have to overcall. The 3 bet preflop is good, but SOMEONE has an ace and you are just betting for them right now.
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Re: Confused with TT
if you plan to call a river bet you should just bet/fold, no worse hand is gonna bet that river.
if villains are really passive i think its close between bet/folding and check/folding. im not sure which one i like better. but check/call can't be good based on ur description of villains. |
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Re: Confused with TT
The flop 3-bet is pretty much a must. You have more plenty of equity (likely the best hand) and it gives you the initiative.
Flop bet is essential. Turn I'm not sure. River: Overcalling stinks. Check with the intention of folding if there's a call or calling if there's a fold. |
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Re: Confused with TT
The problem I see with check/folding the river is this:
After being checked to, Villain A makes a total bluff, or even a 'value-bet' with a paired 8, or 99, or 77, or 66 .... Villain B calls with something like a paired 8, or 99, or 77, or 66 .... Hero folds the best hand, even though he was getting about 14:1 for a call. Accordingly, I say check/call this river, regardless of an overcall. Adam |
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Re: Confused with TT
Bet the river for value and fold to a raise.
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Re: Confused with TT
[ QUOTE ]
After being checked to, Villain A makes a total bluff, or even a 'value-bet' with a paired 8, or 99, or 77, or 66 .... Villain B calls with something like a paired 8, or 99, or 77, or 66 .... [/ QUOTE ] but if u bet, villains will call with all these hands. i dont think he will bluff or "value bet" this range often at all, if you check. we have a very safe fold if raised. so, if you're gonna put a bet in on the river, i think bet/folding is much better than C/C |
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Re: Confused with TT
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] After being checked to, Villain A makes a total bluff, or even a 'value-bet' with a paired 8, or 99, or 77, or 66 .... Villain B calls with something like a paired 8, or 99, or 77, or 66 .... [/ QUOTE ] but if u bet, villains will call with all these hands. i dont think he will bluff or "value bet" this range often at all, if you check. we have a very safe fold if raised. so, if you're gonna put a bet in on the river, i think bet/folding is much better than C/C [/ QUOTE ] True. I just abosolutely folding the river for 1 bet. Perhaps that's something I need to get over, but even here folding to a raise, getting about 17:1 for a call, would make me cringe regardless of how futile a call might be. Adam |
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Results
Thanks for the responses everyone. Very helpful.
It was checked through and my hand was good. ZZZ |
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Re: Results
don't you think A+crappy kicker will often check through the river?
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