32s on the button w/ strange post-flop action

[Borodog]

The preflop limp is not just loose. It's -EV.

[BigBrother]

My first thought on reading the hand was 'don't raise this flop' but I think the flop raise is actually good since:

a) SB is the only customer you risk losing;

b) You have absolutely no equity in the hand except clubs so if you buy a free card/slow people down on the later street you benefit.

c) Given your read of the table being passive post-flop and the likelyhood that others have a weak draw on this board (AT, KJ etc) you are less likely to get 3-bet and punished for your value-raise. Also by building the pot you are more likely to earn bets from more customers on the big streets.

This hand looks like a good exception to the 'don't pump the flop with weak draws' rule.

[BigBrother]

I still think there is value in a turn raise despite the weird flop action from UTG2 and BB's turn donk.

UTG2 could have been pumping a straight draw, or hell he could have misclicked.

If BB had you beat he'd probably checkraise given the crazy flop action, so fire away and take it from there.

If you are 3-bet call down.

If you are called bet/call a safe river. If the river makes you puke, so be it...maybe you can find a fold at that point.

[poboys]

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UTG2 could have been pumping a straight draw, or hell he could have misclicked.

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He played it like he either had JT or a better club draw.

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If BB had you beat he'd probably checkraise given the crazy flop action, so fire away and take it from there.

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Good point, esp if he had a made-but vulnerable hand. If he had a set (prior to the turn), I'd expect him to 3-bet it.

Thanks for the reply.

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If you are called bet/call a safe river. If the river makes you puke, so be it...maybe you can find a fold at that point.

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Another club would make me puke.