Is Ben Roethlisberger the most overrated QB in the league?

[arod15]

Yes he has taken over chad penningtons place...

[brettbrettr]

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Yes he has taken over chad penningtons place...

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Yet another guy who undervalues minor, minor things like winning and playoffs....

So, Pennington, Vick, and Roethilsberger are all overrated, right? Yet in general all three guys have led their teams to the playoffs, even won some playoff games. Oh, I almost forgot Brady. He's definitely overrated. At least you guys are consistent...

[Jack of Arcades]

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Yes he has taken over chad penningtons place...

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Yet another guy who undervalues minor, minor things like winning and playoffs....

So, Pennington, Vick, and Roethilsberger are all overrated, right? Yet in general all three guys have led their teams to the playoffs, even won some playoff games. Oh, I almost forgot Brady. He's definitely overrated. At least you guys are consistent...

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I honestly don't think either Pennington or Roeth are overrated. Roeth's not considered anything special, and people forget how good Pennington once was (he was always being compared to Joe Montana before his injury).

[brettbrettr]

I agree Jack. Though I thought Brady was more Montana than Chad, people really do forget quickly....

I'm not really sure Roeth is overrated but I have no idea how high people rank him, and I don't care that much either. What I do know is that he's not nearly as good as he will be. He's very, very young, but the skills are obv there. What so surprising is how well he moves and how well he throws on the move for a guy his size.

[Jack of Arcades]

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I agree Jack. Though I thought Brady was more Montana than Chad, people really do forget quickly....

I'm not really sure Roeth is overrated but I have no idea how high people rank him, and I don't care that much either. What I do know is that he's not nearly as good as he will be. He's very, very young, but the skills are obv there. What so surprising is how well he moves and how well he throws on the move for a guy his size.

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Yeah, everyone considers Roeth a system QB with all the tools, but he's really the most valuable qb per play in terms of production (something ridiculous like 10+ yards per ATTEMPT).

[brettbrettr]

Can you please tell me what a SYSTEM QB is?

I've heard this term to descirbe players as diverse as Brady and Dilfer. MOst people use it disparagingly, as in, Oh, he's just a good fit for the system. But I don't see how eevry QB isn't a system qb and I don't see how every head coach in the league doesn't try to put a system in place to maximize the skills of his players...

[Jack of Arcades]

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Can you please tell me what a SYSTEM QB is?

I've heard this term to descirbe players as diverse as Brady and Dilfer. MOst people use it disparagingly, as in, Oh, he's just a good fit for the system. But I don't see how eevry QB isn't a system qb and I don't see how every head coach in the league doesn't try to put a system in place to maximize the skills of his players...

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That's more or less exactly my response to everything.

To me, what they usually mean is they're talking about a guy who's a roughly average qb thrown out there to "not lose games." - IE, Brady before last year never really produced a whole lot of numbers until 2004. Usually refers to a soft-spoken white guy that doesn't throw for 300 yards/game.

[David04]

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(something ridiculous like 10+ yards per ATTEMPT).

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Which translates to what, like 110 passing yards?

[Soul Daddy]

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(something ridiculous like 10+ yards per ATTEMPT).

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Which translates to what, like 110 passing yards?

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He hasn't thrown for less than 200 in a game this year.

Is that the reason you cling to your misguided opinion of Roethlisberger? Because he's not a gunslinger that's entrusted to throw the ball 45 times a game? You'd prefer say, Josh McCown?