Big pot, overcard flops

vanHelsing · #1 10-20-2005, 04:20 AM

Lately I frequently found me in situations like this one:

Assume a loose NL200 6max. table., 200$ stacks

UTG calls, MP makes it 6$ (which means he has 2 cards), CO calls, BT calls, SB folds, you have J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in BB and you make it $40, only Co calls.
He is very loose, so his hand range includes Axs, SCs and suited 1gappers, any pair, AJ and better.

Flop ($95) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

He is not too smart, but tricky enough to make you headache.
What's your plan from here?

xorbie · #2 10-20-2005, 04:23 AM

Check raise flop all in, that's how we do it in the hood. And that's also a freakishly big reraise PF. I don't mind taking a flop here.

vanHelsing · #3 10-20-2005, 04:31 AM

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And that's also a freakishly big reraise PF.

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Potsized raise would be to 31$, well, so just assume PFR from MP was 8 and we are in the range of potsize.

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I don't mind taking a flop here.

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This would mean to play it mainly for set value against a crowd of freaks. Is this really the best option?

xorbie · #4 10-20-2005, 04:35 AM

Set + cautious overpair. I think that works fine. Seriously if you reraise huge with JJ OOP then basically you end up with an overcard almost always, and so this is what you are going to run into. Now if you think you can play this situation at least breakeven or only slightly -EV then your original reraise is still +EV and nh. If you think you are going to totally [censored] this hand up once an A or K flops, then I dunno, I prefer to take a decent size pot off a retard with 89.