Two Plus Two Older Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Older Archives > Tournament Poker > Multi-table Tournaments
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

View Poll Results: Which response would you give to the woman?
Thank you very much for your generosity. I'm sure it will come in handy! 17 13.18%
Thanks 74 57.36%
I'm sorry ma'am but it was my pen that I gave to you to sign the receipt. 10 7.75%
No response at all, just walk away 24 18.60%
Other... (please explain what you would do) 4 3.10%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-19-2005, 03:01 PM
DonT77 DonT77 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 186
Default Re: Common Situation Lately - Best Line?

This happened twice in two different PS 73+7 WPT Satellites, and it also happened in a PP 30+3 & a FullTilt 24+2.

I'm looking for a general line or approach - or maybe a list of considerations or things to take into account. Obviously each situation is going to be slightly different (buy-in, site, stack sizes, flop, positions, reads, etc.)

In a way this hand is similar to the Masters #2 hand - in that one question we need to resolve is 'how do I handle the min-raise?' - although my hand is not as strong as top 2 pair (as in Gigabet's M2 hand) and in this case I am out of position.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-19-2005, 03:05 PM
rockythecat99 rockythecat99 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 53
Default Re: Common Situation Lately - Best Line?

Given the stack sizes this is either a fold or a raise. Flat calling this just sucks unless you can get away from this hand on a blank turn card which you won't. If you have a great read that this guy has AQ or AJ flat call. If you don't raising him is the only option for a cheap showdown. STack sizes suck here as you cant do anything without getting yourself pot committed.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-19-2005, 03:09 PM
Dave D Dave D is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Wake Forest University
Posts: 66
Default Re: Common Situation Lately - Best Line?

[ QUOTE ]
This happened twice in two different PS 73+7 WPT Satellites, and it also happened in a PP 30+3 & a FullTilt 24+2.

I'm looking for a general line or approach - or maybe a list of considerations or things to take into account. Obviously each situation is going to be slightly different (buy-in, site, stack sizes, flop, positions, reads, etc.)

In a way this hand is similar to the Masters #2 hand - in that one question we need to resolve is 'how do I handle the min-raise?' - although my hand is not as strong as top 2 pair (as in Gigabet's M2 hand) and in this case I am out of position.

[/ QUOTE ]

One reason I'm really confident that a push is the right play here is that in the 30+3 and probably the 24+2 it will very very often get called, by worse hands. Even if he folds, you still get an extra 650 chips, or a little more than 1/3 of your previous stack. To me, that's a fine extraction. I think a push is the only real way to make sure he pays the most wrong price, while trying to bet the turn might not even get you action.

Don't know about the quality of play in the 70 buy in.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-19-2005, 03:28 PM
pineapple888 pineapple888 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 65
Default Re: Common Situation Lately - Best Line?

[ QUOTE ]

I'm looking for a general line or approach - or maybe a list of considerations or things to take into account.

[/ QUOTE ]

To me, stack size is the overwhelming factor in this hand, and in most online multis. With so much of your stack already in the middle, you just don't have enough room to lay this down or make any fancy moves.

Assuming the blind structure is fast, that just adds to the urgency.

Push and hope for the best.

In the WSOP main event, on the other hand, it would be hugely foolish to play this hand fast early in the tournament.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.