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Old 10-18-2005, 01:10 PM
droolie droolie is offline
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Default Losing initiative with KK

I get K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in MP.

The action is folded to me and I raise. The button ( very loose with average aggro) cold calls. The SB(unknown) and BB (rock) both call.

4 to the flop for 8SB.
The flop come 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

The action is checked to me. I bet. Button raises. SB check-reraises. BB calls. I call(!). Button caps.

4 of us to the turn for 12BB
The turn is J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

SB checks. BB checks. I check(!). Button bets. SB check-raises. BB folds. I call (!). Button 3-bets. SB calls. I call(!).

3 of us to the river for 21BB's.
The river is Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks. I check. Button bets. SB calls. I fold.

This hand was really tough for me to let go of. I think I should have folded much earlier than I did (probably the turn C/R) but I'm not sure where or if that's even correct. At the time since SB was unknown I could see him on a flush draw or top pair top kicker. The turn Check raise seemed like he was trying to protect his hand so I assumed there was a decent chance I was ahead of him.

I was reasonably sure I was behind to button but he might have had a PP lower than mine or two pair. The turn was just awful and I feel like I completely lost control and hung around for a snowball's chance in hell. I really hate it when this happens.

How do you guys play this hand?
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: Losing initiative with KK

So why didn't you 3-bet the flop?
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Losing initiative with KK

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So why didn't you 3-bet the flop?

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SB did that. My bet would've been a cap. I guess I should have capped but the check-3-bet spooked me. *Grumble*
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Old 10-18-2005, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: Losing initiative with KK

You absolutely have to call the river.

I cap the flop and bet the turn if checked to. Then, if I get raised and reraised, I will strongly consider folding.

Edit: Certainly looks like we're up against a set.
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