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Old 10-18-2005, 09:20 AM
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Default Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

After this hand I was frustrated not to have got opponents stack. He was very loose passive.

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MP2 ($64.40)
Hero ($70.75)
CO ($49)
Button ($8.65)
SB ($9.50)
BB ($111.65)
UTG ($18.50)
UTG+1 ($56.35)
MP1 ($62.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $2</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls $1.25.

Turn: ($6.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5.5</font>, BB calls $3.50.

River: ($17.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, BB calls $18.

Final Pot: $53.75

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Jh Th (three of a kind, tens).
Hero has 9s 9d (full house, nines full of tens).
Outcome: Hero wins $53.75. </font>
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:39 AM
Mike Peters Mike Peters is offline
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

I 3 bet this flop. You've got the underfull which is vulnerable. Also, if he has a ten, another club (or two) might kill your action.

He obviously likes his hand on the flop and you said he's loose passive. I might make it 7 or 8 on the flop and proceed from there.
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:46 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

You played the hand way to passive.

Raise preflop, but it's OK to just limp.

Bet pot (or at least 3/4 pot on the flop)
When he raises you, RERAISE.

Raise More on the turn.

You got one of the best situations that can occur in poker, you have a GREAT hand and villian has a Very good hand (and you probably knew it through tha hand as well).
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Old 10-18-2005, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

i guess I just wasn't aggressive enough. I thought a reraise by me on the turn might push some players off a 10 weak kicker but with him being so loose, I should have bet more.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

the idea is that you want them to think "nobody would reraise me with a made hand, they want me in"

calling will scare most people anyways.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

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Flop: ($2.75) T, T, 9 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.75, BB raises to $2, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls $1.25

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I get it all in right here if, as you say, villain is loose passive.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

Everything about your line screamed that you had him beat, and he still called you all the way down (incl a pot bet on the river on a board now showing a str8 a flush and he only had a J-kicker to his T). Thus, you should have gotten more.

I bet the flop much harder than .75. If somebody has a T here then lets see em ... make it 2.50 there, and when he raises, he will go between 7 and 10. Now you have a pot worth talking about. You can 3-bet to 30 or so, and he will likely push. Wonderful.

Your flop and turn actions were too small to get his stack.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

play an underfull fast. with a two-tone board, play it even faster. you won't lose a T, but any turned [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] will prolly kill your action.
if you slowplay this, you are spewing implied odds.
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

Bet 25 at the river. Also. Id reraised the turn there. make it 15 to go....
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Old 10-18-2005, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: Flopped Boat - Could Have Been Played Better?

Generally, when i flop a boat with YY on a flop like YZZ I almost always just fire a pot bet and hope someone has Zx, especally when Z is something like a Ten that people tend to play in unraised pots.
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