Howard Lederer, is he any good?

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I haven't seen him on any WPT final tables for a looong time. Is he not as good as Negreanu, Ivey, Brunson etc? Has he been unlucky?

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you people are ridiculous...

[KingDan]

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I haven't seen him on any WPT final tables for a looong time. Is he not as good as Negreanu, Ivey, Brunson etc? Has he been unlucky?

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Negreanu isn't world class, he didn't even make it past day one of the WSOP!

[BUD]

Those r some pretty serious and detailed statements you made, can they be verified? Not to ? yur credebility, it is suprising that i have not heard this in the past.
bud

No one is that good. Poker is hustling. You just play super tight vs a bunch of suckers and you cant lose, and other so-called good players cant beat you.

[Beavis68]

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Honestly Howard seems kind of dull...(in comparison to those three listed)

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Yeah, Phil Ivey is entertaining as hell, the way he sits there with his mouth open, and his eyes shifting around.... man I want screen saver of that.

[psyduck]

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No, he actually sucks. Greenstein and Co. like to put him against Andy Beal in the Big Game as a red herring while Johnny Chan sneaks dons his leopard-print ninja suit and steals the golden monkey paw from the back room.

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just so random it's hilarious

[Smoothcall]

Oh ic. When Daniel had a bad year didnt make nay wpt final tables he was unlucky or running bad. But yet when Howard doesn't have a good year its because he's not as good as Daniel. Makes sense.

[Jedster]

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Howard Lederer is an incredibly diverse individual. Starting out as a child, he proved himself worthy of board games such as Trouble, Battleship, and Yatzee. Moving on to college for one year, he found his passion in chess. While on the International chess circuit, he discovered an interest in fine art (more on this later) He then discovered poker and honed his skills in the dingy underground clubs, taking money from such fish as Dan Harrington and Eric Seidel. While pursuing poker, Howard was recruited by one of the club owners to run the sports book for the Gambino crime family. He was so succesful, he had to move the operation out to Vegas to avoid the heat.

It turns out, that the sports betting operation was just a subterfuge for his real activities – international art thief. Howard learned from the best, - Stephane Breitwieser. Boston mobster Whitey Bulger who was owed a favor by the Gambinos and needing a bargaining chip in case he was caught while on the lamb, pressed Howard into pulling off the Gardner Museum heist in 1990.

Howard took his 20% fee from this 100+ million heist and put the money into high stakes cash games at the Bellagio. There he met Suzy, a swing shift manager and the love of his life. In order to prove his love for her, Howard anonymously tipped off the authorities and returned his greatest art theft, Munchen’s The Scream, which he stole in 1994. Wedding bells followed.

Howard, bored by high stakes poker and not ready to give up his passion for art decided to steal Munchen’s The Scream again in 2004 and as a bonus his Madonna painting. He really likes that painting! Authorities haven’t been able to make the connection, but it is widely speculated that Howard used the proceeds of the underground sale of these two paintings to fund Full Tilt Poker. Who knows what the future holds for the Professor.

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Those r some pretty serious and detailed statements you made, can they be verified? Not to ? yur credebility, it is suprising that i have not heard this in the past.
bud

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If you're looking for specifics, I heard the whole Andy Beal thing was actually just a cover for the art theft ring. The match was simply an alibi for Howard who was busy working with a ring consisting of reknowned art thieves Robert MacDougal, Virginia Baker, François Toulour, and Thomas Crown. Apparently Isabel Lahiri was close to busting them, and Beal (who funded the whole thing) came up with the idea for the poker matches as a distraction. Apparently the mastermind was Danny Ocean. And the Incan matrimonial headmasks didn't pay off like they had expected to. So that is how Full Tilt Poker was launched.

Just because he hasn't been to a WPT final table in a while doesn't mean he's a bad player. The man destroys the cash games. He is a pro and he's made a lot of money playing poker, he obviously has game.

Aye, but you forget that it was Brunson's lifelong goal to acquire that said golden monkey paw, and Lederer was appointed into "The Corporation", which features some no name decoy fish like Chip Reese, Chau Giang, Ted Forrest, Lyle Berman, and Hamid Dastmalchi (is that made by Daewoo? LOLOL), and some super legends like Doyle Brunson and Phil Ivey. Lederer's expertise was needed to pull off the heist itself, and it was only successful due to his planning. However, the paw put a curse on Howie, and now he keeps getting owned by his sister, who is mean and looks evil (now you know why).