Ace in the small blind - Page 2

lautzutao · #11 10-15-2005, 04:31 PM

c/r

lautzutao · #12 10-15-2005, 04:33 PM

dude, if I find out you didn't c/r this turn I'm gonna spank you.

jacarney · #13 10-15-2005, 04:49 PM

I'm curious what Villian would cap with pre-flop. If he think's you're a softy, and then caps your 3-bet, I tend to think we're facing a stronger hand than a random stealing hand. This is probably weak, but I would would check/call the flop and probably give up on the turn if I don't improve.

On second thought, I don't think that we're going to get Villain to give up his hand here through aggressive play, so maybe a WA/WB line is appropriate? If he has overs, we make the most, but if we're behind to a big pair we lose the least and make it to showdown (which is important here).

gopnik · #14 10-15-2005, 05:33 PM

I like betting this turn.
I don't think he'll raise it with a good A, so you can safely fold to a raise. Bet a safe river if he just calls.

thesharpie · #15 10-15-2005, 06:52 PM

I think I would've check raised the flop, but once you check/call I just check/call from there. He's probably not giving up on the turn, and even if he does he'll often call a river bet with ace high, so we effectively charge him anyway, and we might can save a BB if a spade falls (or get bluffed out). The fact he could have 12 outs instead of 3 if he has something like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K is worrying, but the pot is still fairly small, and even I would bet that so I'm sure a LAG is going to.

I like Wookie's idea of leading and calling down if he's a chronic bluff raiser, but if you're not sure either way I don't like leading since I don't want to put 2 bets in on the turn, but I also don't want to lay it down.

Aaron W. · #16 10-16-2005, 12:23 AM

I botched the turn. I checked to check-raise, then realized that I really *DON'T* want to put three bets in on the turn. I'm not worried about giving up a free card, but I would like villain to raise with a worse hand (possibly holding just A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) instead of check-raising and allowing him to 3-bet with the best hand. I think I should have donked the turn.

Now we're at the river, and it should be easy given how I played (or even if I had bet-called or check-raised and wasn't 3-bet).

Paradise Poker 1/2 Hold'em (4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, Button caps, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero...

chiachu · #17 10-16-2005, 05:20 AM

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Now we're at the river, and it should be easy given how I played (or even if I had bet-called or check-raised and wasn't 3-bet).

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ugh... i dont find this easy... i suck [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

donk/fold?

Shillx · #18 10-16-2005, 05:33 AM

I like the play until 4th street here. I acutally don't really mind check/calling the turn as most hands that we fear (A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]) are going to bet again in hopes that we fold. So in reality it doesn't matter if we bet or not since we will usually get value from a hand that is still on a draw. Against a more savvy opponent you would tend bet here since they will check behind when you call on that board. Also notice that you should bet from time to time as a stone bluff or with the nut [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. If he knows that you will bet any pair, he can play perfectly against you when you check and value bet his AK to death. So even against a very good player I don't think that your play is that bad as long as you mix it up.

The river is a must bet IMO the way it has gone down.

Brad

Edit to say that the pot isn't big enough to try and get hands like KQ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] to fold on the turn. In a big pot you would obviously play it straight up to knock out hands that have more outs then they might realize.

Aaron W. · #19 10-16-2005, 05:00 PM

I bet the river, villain thought for a while and called. He lost with KQs.

Later on, when he was enjoying a moment of sheer brilliance with everyone else at the table, he started talking about how he had "pegged [me] as a fish after like 10 hands". At least he had a read...

nomadtla · #20 10-16-2005, 05:13 PM

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I bet the river, villain thought for a while and called. He lost with KQs.

Later on, when he was enjoying a moment of sheer brilliance with everyone else at the table, he started talking about how he had "pegged [me] as a fish after like 10 hands". At least he had a Computer that allowed him to get online make an tool of himself and feel more prideful as he went to bed that night, thinking he would be world champ one day.

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FYP

Does he give coaching lessons can you give me his name so I can learn from this master. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]