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Old 10-14-2005, 07:53 PM
Notorious G.O.B. Notorious G.O.B. is offline
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Default Re: Heads-up/Short-handed Limit Holdem (long post)

Out of curiousity, was this a hot and cold sim, or was postflop play a factor? I think folding is ok as well, don't believe it makes too much difference.
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Old 10-14-2005, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: More marginal hands

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Absolute Poker 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: tereg is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">tereg raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">tereg bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">tereg bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">tereg bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, tereg calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Results below: <font color="#000000">
BB has 7c 4h (two pair, sevens and fours).
tereg has Ks 9s (high card, king).
Outcome: BB wins 9.25 BB. </font>


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I know you already know this but:

Don't bet the river against a calling station. And for the love of god, why call the checkraise? Are you even thinking?

Hands like these are certainly much worse for your bottom line than the bad beats you posted in your original post.
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Old 10-14-2005, 11:31 PM
tereg tereg is offline
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Default Re: More marginal hands

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Absolute Poker 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: tereg is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">tereg raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">tereg bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">tereg bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">tereg bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, tereg calls.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

Results below: <font color="#000000">
BB has 7c 4h (two pair, sevens and fours).
tereg has Ks 9s (high card, king).
Outcome: BB wins 9.25 BB. </font>


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I know you already know this but:

Don't bet the river against a calling station. And for the love of god, why call the checkraise? Are you even thinking?

Hands like these are certainly much worse for your bottom line than the bad beats you posted in your original post.

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Right... I mean... the point I'm really trying to make with all of these hands is that I definitely have the capability to go back, look at hands that are disastrous, or hands where I either missed bets/gave away bets.

Of course I played this hand terribly (that's what I said in that post)... but the most important thing, at least in my opinion, is to be able to see hands like this, understand that I did indeed play like a n00b, and learn from the mistake... which, obviously now, I know better.

But, does anyone have an opinion about my comments about my tendency to show down instead of value betting? Or does anyone have any comments about the differences I've noted about Heads-up/3-handed/4-handed/all hands?

Thanks again for all of your responses, I do appreciate it.
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