KJs in BB - NL50 - Page 2

Isura · #11 10-14-2005, 01:32 AM

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Pot the flop. The minraise is tough. Against some players this is a fold, against others it's a push.

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I don't see myself folding against ANY opponent on this flop.

#12 10-14-2005, 03:33 AM

As most posters agreed with I pushed the flop. He called and showed AKo for TPTK. MHIG.

Godfather80 · #13 10-14-2005, 03:53 AM

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This hand is from a while ago, MP1 is 24/1.5 over 75 hands and Button is 36/5 after 36. Check raise on the flop, any good? What to do after the min-raise?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO ($56.70)
Button ($42.55)
SB ($64.72)
Hero ($54.55)
UTG ($34.95)
UTG+1 ($46)
UTG+2 ($39.15)
MP1 ($102.54)
MP2 ($49.50)
MP3 ($59.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, Button raises to $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, MP1 calls $0.50.

Flop: ($4.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, Button bets $2, Hero raises to $8, UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $16

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Does anybody else fold this preflop because they have no desire to play this sort of hand OOP?

Robfish · #14 10-14-2005, 04:28 AM

For 50c more? No chance, take the flop, hope to hit 2 pair and come up against AK who didnt bet enough pre flop and then get all the money in!!

srm80 · #15 10-14-2005, 05:04 AM

i wouldn't fold this for 50 cents, i wouldn't fold this for 3XBB either. I would lead into the raiser having flopped two pair, and hopefully get stacked by a guy who can't let go of top pair.

afreeman · #16 10-14-2005, 05:16 AM

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Bet the flop.

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You're first to act in a large field with a pre-flop raiser. The texture of the flop is such that it undoubtably connected with someone. There is a flush draw and two high cards on the board and you'll be OOP for the rest of the hand, so you'd be fine with winning this now, rather than later.

Overall, seems like the perfect spot for a check-raise.

Did I miss something?

Toyboy · #17 10-14-2005, 06:53 AM

wp on all streets! (and AK is a very likely hand for villain to hold here)

Godfather80 · #18 10-14-2005, 11:16 AM

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Bet the flop.

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You're first to act in a large field with a pre-flop raiser. The texture of the flop is such that it undoubtably connected with someone. There is a flush draw and two high cards on the board and you'll be OOP for the rest of the hand, so you'd be fine with winning this now, rather than later.

Overall, seems like the perfect spot for a check-raise.

Did I miss something?

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Don't build a large pot OOP. Just bet out. The checkraise bloats the size of the pot and you are gonna have a tougher time handling because of your position.

#19 10-14-2005, 02:57 PM

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Bet the flop.

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You're first to act in a large field with a pre-flop raiser. The texture of the flop is such that it undoubtably connected with someone. There is a flush draw and two high cards on the board and you'll be OOP for the rest of the hand, so you'd be fine with winning this now, rather than later.

Overall, seems like the perfect spot for a check-raise.

Did I miss something?

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Don't build a large pot OOP. Just bet out. The checkraise bloats the size of the pot and you are gonna have a tougher time handling because of your position.

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I agree, if you have tptk, but I figured I was ahead at this point and wanted to end it before the turn. A check-raise will get rid of most drawing hands, and gives the opponent the chance to make a mistake by calling with a weaker hand.

4_2_it · #20 10-14-2005, 03:07 PM

If you won't push this flop then why did you bother to call in the first place? Better move is to bet out pot to isolate TPTK. You do not want drawing hands sticking around on the cheap.