Better long term, $200-$400 PL or 10/20-20/40 Limit?

[Big Dave D]

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SH games allow the better players to separate the worst players from their money faster because situations are more marginal (and therefore better decision making is exponentially rewarded) and more hands are played in the same timeframe. I don't understand this comment at all. Full ring is a nitfest.

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I guess instead of luckfest I should have said variance-fest. I could also disagree with your comments in principal, as they are only true against bad, passive players. The idea that your ability to play marginal situations somehow *exponentially* rewards you in a game where there is a lot of ramming and jamming is also clearly nonsense.

But my main point, which I admit I didnt state particularly well, is that against good players, a lot of hands become split pots with a bunch of outs to 3/4 or scoop for *both* players. So big shifts of money, sometimes the only shifts of money, occur when one side hits 4-6 outs against the other.

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This also makes no sense. If the only time people will put money in the pot is with the stone cold nuts then you will make tons of money simply by betting every pot. Most pots, no one makes anything good.

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I get the feeling you dont play much of PLO or PLO8b either. In these games, most posts, someone DOES make something good. This isnt NLHE. IN PLO especially, its about degrees of good to great and drawing against those hands. In PLO8b, most of your profit comes from freerolls and 3/4s. Sometimes these 3/4 can be as little as one pair against dumb opponents. If you are playing tight good opponents - not some kind of weak rocks like you describe - then it will be very hard to have these big edges on them. The reason for this is simply the low element of the game. They will able to call so much more because they already have half of the pot locked up.

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Your post is weird because you sound like you know what you're talking about but everything you say is completely wrong. I don't get it.

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PLO8b is very different from the other PL and NL games. And not everything you read in a book is true.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Fair enough. I think maybe you just made your points kind of extremely/unclearly. As I said, it sounded like you knew what you were talking about, yet your comments didn't make sense to me at all. I think we're pretty much on the same page now with your clarification.

[chaos]

The limit game will probably have a smaller varience, all else being equal.

[Wintermute]

You know, maybe I was a little off with that comment. I was talking to a 15-yr pro who cleared 130k in the 2k PLO8 game today and he says he notices the game has toughened up considerably recently. More tight play, worst players thoroughly broke. These games are still beatable, but nowhere near as good as they were a few months ago.

Also, he agrees that the lower limits are still good, and probably will be for a while.

Finally, about Buklah, my guess is that he is GASSS_U, and maybe Biznatchy. But probably GASSS_U. Anyway, both are worth avoiding.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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who cleared 130k in the 2k PLO8 game today

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[Wintermute]

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who cleared 130k in the 2k PLO8 game today

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uh, sorry. That should say in the last 4 months. A slight fcuk-up on my part.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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who cleared 130k in the 2k PLO8 game today

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uh, sorry. That should say in the last 4 months. A slight fcuk-up on my part.

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Still pretty damn impressive. But yeah, that woulda been a hell of a heater.

[Wintermute]

most I've seen is around 25k in a day

[Big Dave D]

You win a cookie for your guess.

gl

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