turn a set - Page 2

xorbie · #11 10-06-2005, 05:39 PM

[ QUOTE ]
and maybe I'm doing something dumb...but aren't there 12 combined AA/KK's?

[/ QUOTE ]

With an A on the board, there are only 3 remaining ways to make AA. Ditto KK.

swarm · #12 10-06-2005, 05:42 PM

Is he capable of making this move without AA or KK considering the preflop action? If you thought he was did you consider trying to take this away on an Ace high flop? What do you think he puts you on after calling his raise?

I'm not a big fan of getting 10% of my stack in preflop to set hunt... it's not terrible considering the pot size if you know he will pay you off.

You played to hit a set, he let you hit it on the turn. His check is a little scketchy as lags sometimes slow down when they hit a big hand and I see KK or AA flopped sets pull this quite often at this level, but your not folding a set. Push the turn, neither of you are folding at this point, the pot is to big.

tommo · #13 10-06-2005, 05:43 PM

heh, yeah you're right I wasn't taking order not mattering into account

lapoker17 · #14 10-06-2005, 05:51 PM

Lags don't check flops after reraising pre unless there's something weird going on - he could have QQ and hate the flop, but a lag still usually finds a bet here. You guys aren't deep enough for you to try to "milk" him. As far as letting him keep fire with air - he doesn't have air - is he really reraising out of the blinds and stacks this short with something that isn't strong?

If you had folded to the turn bet - I would be fine with that, but the fact that you called the river means that you're willing to lose to AA or KK here.

I push because I dont want to see an A,K,J,Q or T on the river and have to make that call.

tommo · #15 10-06-2005, 06:41 PM

thanks, thats a really valid point. I think probably folding on the turn here would've been the right play.

Maulik · #16 10-06-2005, 09:05 PM

[ QUOTE ]
thanks, thats a really valid point. I think probably folding on the turn here would've been the right play.

[/ QUOTE ]

folding a set because someone may have a higher set????

I don't think so. why are you playing your 55 to a raise PF?

tommo · #17 10-07-2005, 12:25 AM

I am playing 55 to hit a set on AA or KK and thus stack. When the A and the K come down its a very legitimate concern that villain has AA or KK.

Its not a terrible push either, I'd say its really pretty much 50/50. I'm not actually that unhappy with the way I played it, villain did show down KK though.