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Old 10-03-2005, 08:38 AM
MrEngenic MrEngenic is offline
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

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[/ QUOTE ] I don't think so. If they can, they probably don't understand limit holdem

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I understand limit holdem, and I find this a very easy fold on the flop with only 2 outs and the possibility of a raise behind me.
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

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Can anybody find a fold?

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Fold the flop. I know that 17-to-1 looks great but,

-you're not closing the action
-there's no way that you've actually got 2 full outs
-there's a good chance that hitting your set will make a second best hand
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

Yeah, I missed that. I fold the flop. I still pay one bet on the river with my set.
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Old 10-03-2005, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

This pot is just too effing huge to fold. I feel dirty, but I'm calling on this river with sorrow in my heart.

Does anybody want to raise on the flop, I kinda do.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

I fold river with a sick feeling in my gut and throw something, but relishing the fact i was good enough to save a BB.

If I fold, and my hand was good. I won't be throwing anything, unless its after I break it. Then I'll have to turn off my computer because I'll be so tilted that I won't be able to play without serious bankroll danger. So I'll have to have a couple of drinks because I won't be able to sleep otherwise. Between the chances that my hand is good, and the consequences of folding in that case, I think I have to call in this huge pot.
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Old 10-03-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

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No reads. Can anybody find a fold?

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On the flop, yes.
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Old 10-03-2005, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

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Can anybody find a fold?

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Fold the flop. I know that 17-to-1 looks great but,

-you're not closing the action
-there's no way that you've actually got 2 full outs
-there's a good chance that hitting your set will make a second best hand

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I called the flop with not only my 2 outs, but with my backdoor straight draw outs. If that 8 and 9 wasn't out there, I'd be folding it. I still call this flop.
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Old 10-03-2005, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

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This pot is just too effing huge to fold. I feel dirty, but I'm calling on this river with sorrow in my heart.

Does anybody want to raise on the flop, I kinda do.

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This is just chip spewing in my opinion. Theres no hand to protect, you're not going to get anyone to lay down a better hand, and there are WAY to many cards that can come to kill your hand. Raising here would just be completely overplaying it imho.
As for folding the flop...thats where this hand went wrong. A fold there is definitely the right move, nothing else. I can definitely see a call having some warrant to it on the river, but i honestly feel its a negative EV play given all the action and that many players. I think making folds like this are what determine the winners from the big winners.
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

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but in this case, there's no way a call can be correct.

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If nobody overcalls, Hero only has to be good 1 time in 37 to make this call correct. Or about 2.5% of the time.
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Old 10-04-2005, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: Set meets resistance in huge pot.

You guys have it covered; my vote is for the flop fold.

I will point out that you cannot fold the turn whatsoever. If you didn't like that turn card, you must realize that earlier.
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