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Old 10-02-2005, 04:52 PM
matt hooley matt hooley is offline
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Default KQs, overcall on river in a huge pot.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (14 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (12 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

River: (22 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 25 BB

I think I'm ok with the cold call PF, enough people have entered and I'm not quite strong enough for a 3-bet with no read on MP1. I raise the flop out of pot equity. MP1 leads the turn again which isn't looking good with the K falling. After MP3 raises I know I'm at least calling with my TP2K and flush draw, but I decided to 3-bet because I'm pretty strong and I'd like to see how MP1 reacts. The river brings one of the three cards I wouldn't like to see. Even after MP3 calls the pot is so big I felt I had to call.

What do you think? Would you do anything differently?
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Old 10-02-2005, 04:57 PM
POKhER POKhER is offline
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Default Re: KQs, overcall on river in a huge pot.

Preflop: With so many guys in the pot i think a cold call is OK.

Flop: Good raise, EQUITY(although its not to the nuts).
Turn: Nice card, Fine play IMO.
River: Ouchy but pot is so big its a crying call...

Messy hand and unlucky it didn't come in(although i get an idea they may of been on flush draw also? MP1).

No reads? Good hand.
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Old 10-02-2005, 04:58 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: KQs, overcall on river in a huge pot.

I don't 3-bet the turn. Rest is fine. Folding on this river is awful btw.
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Old 10-02-2005, 05:00 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: KQs, overcall on river in a huge pot.

don't 3-bet the turn.

and the river overcall is bad, but hey, it's one more bet in a big pot. i don't see you winning ever.
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Old 10-02-2005, 05:01 PM
POKhER POKhER is offline
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Default Re: KQs, overcall on river in a huge pot.

Hmm yeah, Take my comments back.

he preflop raised and i dont see you being ahead even wen you spike the king... your in it for the flush draw so calling seems best.

POKhER.
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Old 10-02-2005, 06:31 PM
ChuckyB ChuckyB is offline
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Default Re: KQs, overcall on river in a huge pot.

Can't fold the river. .50/1.00 players on PP are terrible. There's at least a 4% chance you're good here. Call because the pot is beyond huge.

If you folded the winner in a 26 BB pot would you ever be able to live with yourself?
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Old 10-03-2005, 08:47 AM
WalkAmongUs WalkAmongUs is offline
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Default Re: KQs, overcall on river in a huge pot.

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If you folded the winner in a 26 BB pot would you ever be able to live with yourself?

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I've done it because I gave random micro players too much credit.

and it feels disgusting.
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Old 10-03-2005, 09:55 AM
car ramrod car ramrod is offline
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Default Re: KQs, overcall on river in a huge pot.

I don't see any way in hell you are winning this hand. MP3 wakes up and raises the turn, I would not 3 bet him here. I would call the turn and fold the river. Over calling is never good, especially on that A.
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