board pairs on river after slowplaying - Page 3

thegoose420 · #21 09-30-2005, 08:03 PM

I want to thank everyone for their responses. For the last 4 months or so i have been bonus whoring on the crypto sites building a bankroll and unable to share any of the many hands i had questuions on. Today was my first day back at the party network and i am loving the loose play and number of fish. Im sure you'll be seeing many more of my poorly played hands in the near future and i can't wait to recieve everyones advice.

Final results: villian has 10[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] wins with full house

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deception5 · #22 09-30-2005, 08:12 PM

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giving a preflop raiser a massive range will do that...

i would still check raise this flop though. those numbers just don't show anything

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It's not that massive when you consider he's after a poster who checked.

POKhER · #23 09-30-2005, 08:13 PM

yeh i concluded its from protection/thinning the field rather than VALUE.

Also added benifit of seeing is CO liked his hand.

he'd have 3bet i assume here(well or the classic C/C C/R [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

ubercuber · #24 09-30-2005, 08:53 PM

*grunch*

I think you raise the flop, but not to knock anybody out because I think no one goes away if they have clubs. So I think it is a value raise with 3 opponents...even if your straight draw is just one card, you paired too so 3or 4 outs considering a 9 could be trouble, and 6 for the straight seems conservative and enough to raise. Turn is standard. River I think I bet out, but I think yours is fine too.

ubercuber · #25 10-01-2005, 06:29 PM

Just read all the other replies here, not sure I understand why this isn't a value raise situation. Because of the 2 clubs? Because of only having our 9 involved in the straight? Because we aren't sure we'll get three callers? I am pretty fuzzy on this concept to begin with so hopefully somebody will clarify. Also could someone highly skilled give an expert out count for this hand...proper discounting I think is crucial, and perhaps why I don't get it.