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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
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Fold preflop, fold the flop. You're a dog against the pfr's range of hands. [/ QUOTE ] Really? I would think a CO raise could be quite a few hands. Now if it were UTG raising, yeah. I'm leaning more towards 3 betting preflop, than folding. Might get EP to fold and see a 4 card flop. |
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
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I'm leaning more towards 3 betting preflop, than folding. Might get EP to fold and see a 4 card flop. [/ QUOTE ] and you say you can't play 6-max. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] OP: preflop is read-based. but it is definitely a raise/fold situation. hand changes from there. |
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
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[ QUOTE ] I'm leaning more towards 3 betting preflop, than folding. Might get EP to fold and see a 4 card flop. [/ QUOTE ]OP: preflop is read-based. but it is definitely a raise/fold situation. hand changes from there. [/ QUOTE ] Hero having the button inclines me to three bet. |
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
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[ QUOTE ] Fold preflop, fold the flop. You're a dog against the pfr's range of hands. [/ QUOTE ] Really? I would think a CO raise could be quite a few hands. Now if it were UTG raising, yeah. I'm leaning more towards 3 betting preflop, than folding. Might get EP to fold and see a 4 card flop. [/ QUOTE ] Against a good, agressive player, this may be true, but against an unknown at these limits, I think its a clear fold. The typical opponent is loose but passive, and not particularly position-aware. Therefore I think AJo does play very poorly against the likely range of hands of the raiser. |
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
Even on the button, cold-calling a raiser and a limper with AJo is just asking for trouble unless they're both loosey-gooseys or maniacs, and even in that rare case I'd reraise rather than call and take control. As a few others have said, against people who have some idea what they're doing you're dominated too often for the cold-call to be +EV. Muck it preflop and don't feel bad about it.
--Scott |
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
Raise preflop.
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
[ QUOTE ] Really? I would think a CO raise could be quite a few hands. Now if it were UTG raising, yeah. I'm leaning more towards 3 betting preflop, than folding. Might get EP to fold and see a 4 card flop. [/ QUOTE ] That may be true if CO were open raising (folded to him). However, MP2 already limped before him, making a steal less likely. Clear fold preflop (unless its a 6 max table) |
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
Without a read I fold this preflop. The only thing that might possibly keep me in here is the fact that it is a .05/.10 cent game on Stars...but imo the threat of domination is just too good without a read.
On the flop, you have your overcard outs, but there is redraw potential and with the PF raise you can't be totally comfortable with your A outs (or even your J outs for fear of an overpair). The only thing is that the pot is pretty good size here. If (and this is a big if) I am going to stay in here then I am going to raise...if I get re-raised I am done...if I don't and it gets checked to me on a UI turn I am probably going to take a free card to try and improve. All-in-all though I think you are better off dropping this. I'm not sure how wise this advice is, but if I can recall my .05/.10 any type of aggression will usually freeze the table up for at least one betting round. |
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
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That may be true if CO were open raising (folded to him). However, MP2 already limped before him, making a steal less likely. Clear fold preflop (unless its a 6 max table) [/ QUOTE ] MP2 limped in meaning MP2 has a weak hand if it's not strong enough to raise there. CO raises after 1 limper to shut out the blinds. I'd raise A2s/A7o in CO's position. Granted we don't know much about CO, but there are a TON of hands that could be raising in that spot that don't dominate us. We also have position postflop. |
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Re: None of this felt right. AJo
CO, if a complicated ML player could be raising a merely decent hand if he/she feels MP2 is weak and wants to isolate. That's pretty advanced thinking typically for this limit and the players you'll normally run up against. (cept some 2+2ers [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) All other cases, fold PF. Rest of the hand looks good. T |
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