Calling down with Ace high

[DMBFan23]

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Why not tend to say "Look buddy, we've been through this before, and I'm here to tell you - you're going to have to dig a little deeper to gain initiative/ free showdowns / etc vs. me here"

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I like this quote a lot, I wonder what the median hand is that we need to do this...i.e. it's correct to do it a certain percentage of the time, so should we do it with any AK/AQ, and AJ only if we have a backdoor draw? just AK, and AQ if we have a backdoor draw? do we need a pair? etc. I think you're arguing that the worst hand you need for this is somewhere in the A high range, and cartman is saying it's somewhere in the pair range. I've tended to play more like what cartman said, because I'm a full-ring convert and probably a weak bitch. so your post surprised me as well.