Had my ass handed to me, 200NL

Ojo_Rojo · #1 09-27-2005, 11:40 AM

Had the worst day ever today. Everything I did was wrong, continuation bets were picked off, my sets had no action, any bluffs were mis-timed, and my draws missed by a mile. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]. To compound everything, I think I played poorly too.

Please could you comment on these hands, and hence help me set my mind straight - thanks!! (Sorry about the [color] tabs, its now too late to remove them).

Hand 1:

No reads.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 ($189.20)
MP3 ($75.15)
Hero ($314.05)
Button ($282.90)
SB ($203.60)
BB ($203.60)
UTG ($220.70)
UTG+1 ($47.45)
UTG+2 ($168.55)
MP1 ($214.10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
[color=#666666]2 folds, UTG+2 calls $2, [color=#666666]3 folds, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $9, Button calls $9, SB (poster) calls $8, [color=#666666]1 fold, UTG+2 calls $7.

Flop: ($38) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](4 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $16, [color=#CC3333]Button raises to $45, SB folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $29.

Turn: ($128) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $80, Button calls $80.

River: ($288) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]Button bets $75, Hero calls $75.

Final Pot: $438

Hand 2:

Villain here was truly terrible, loose, passive and truly terrible.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($207.75)
MP1 ($250.70)
MP2 ($215.95)
MP3 ($82.60)
CO ($194.70)
Button ($191)
SB ($205.55)
BB ($154.60)
UTG ($222.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
[color=#666666]1 fold, Hero calls $2, MP1 calls $2, [color=#666666]2 folds, CO calls $2, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($10) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $8, [color=#CC3333]MP1 raises to $28, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($66) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](3 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $40, [color=#CC3333]MP1 raises to $90, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $196

Hand 3:

Ugh... Villain is a loose aggressive, but not enough data to be sure how good he is.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 ($304.65)
MP2 ($203.60)
MP3 ($199.60)
CO ($110.70)
Button ($298.85)
Hero ($227.05)
BB ($501.62)
UTG ($333.85)
UTG+1 ($208.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
[color=#666666]3 folds, MP2 calls $2, [color=#666666]3 folds, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($6) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](3 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $5, BB calls $5, MP2 folds.

Turn: ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]BB bets $8, Hero calls $8.

River: ($32) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [color=#0000FF](2 players)
[color=#CC3333]Hero bets $18, [color=#CC3333]BB raises to $50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $100

Many thanks in advance for all comments...

Ojo_Rojo

crosse91 · #2 09-27-2005, 12:06 PM

hand 1:
pf: good raise, too bad you're 4 to a flop (expect many small pp's here that have called to hit a set)
flop: Bet much more than 1/2 pot. i like a full pot bet here. He could have a very good hand or could just be trying to pick off your VERY weak flop bet.
turn: Given that we don't know about his holding (due to the weakness of the flop bet) i like this bet and this amount. Good.
river: check-call a smallish bet is perfect here. However, since the pot is so large in relation to the little stack that he has left, if you're going to call an all-in why not push? Did you hope he would check behind?

hand 2:
pf: this a bad preflop call. a-10o is not a hand to be playing in EP. Too easily dominated by anything that comes in after it. Best you can reasonably hope for is a 10 high flop. This is poor, and you should stop limping with this immediately.
flop: Good bet, but when a passive player raises you need to watch out. i call his raise but,
turn: i check call turn. Betting into a loose/passive who has raised your flop bet is suicide. Check calling keeps the pot smaller, and there's a chance he'll check behind (not very large however) BUT betting here and getting raised again this is a clear and good fold.
river: check-call a reasonable bet here

overall: your hand has showdown value, but is not one that you want in a large pot, its too vulnerable. Oh, and stop playing a-10 in EP

hand 3:
pf: good
flop: good bet
turn: good check-call (this is a great line for 2 pair)
river: yuck. Why bet out here? Why check-call turn just to lead river and fold to a raise? If you can't stand a raise on the river then check! I check-call this river as well, as before you have showdown value but not much, keep it cheap.

Ojo_Rojo · #3 09-27-2005, 12:19 PM

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Oh, and stop playing a-10 in EP

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Ugh. I didnt even think about this until you mentioned it. Just shows how clouded my judgement is.. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Thanks for your time crosse, some poker soul-searching is needed before I play again.

Ojo_Rojo

crosse91 · #4 09-27-2005, 12:21 PM

no problem, anything to keep me from writing my paper.

-Skeme- · #5 09-27-2005, 01:36 PM

I don't understand why you lead the turn with your Kings.