does anyone raise this river?

Dommer · #1 09-27-2005, 03:29 AM

The villain is 65/25 and pretty bad, is it worth it to raise this river? I put him on a missed flush draw, a two pair that hit on the turn and boated river, a set that missed a check raise on the flop, a jack, or a bluff (I include trip 9s in bluff). I have to hope he has a jack to call the river. Standard call?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

Hero ($99.50)
Button ($61.99)
SB ($228.64)
BB ($91.50)
UTG ($20.69)
UTG+1 ($121.05)
UTG+2 ($225.38)
MP1 ($110.36)
MP2 ($106)
MP3 ($97)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $3.

Flop: ($13) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($13) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+2 bets $1, Hero raises to $15, SB folds, UTG+2 calls $14.

River: ($43) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $25, Hero calls $25.

Final Pot: $93

Results in white below: 
UTG+2 has 6c Jc (straight, king high).
Hero has Jd Ah (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins $93.

Hendricks433 · #2 09-27-2005, 03:32 AM

I probally do. Good chane he doesnt have the boat. Depends on reads too. I rely on reads alot.

Dommer · #3 09-27-2005, 03:35 AM

My read was he had a missed flush draw... turns out he did but he had the J as well [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

xorbie · #4 09-27-2005, 03:35 AM

You think he's limping with QQ/KK/TT? If he has a boat, oh well. Push city.

Dommer · #5 09-27-2005, 03:37 AM

Hrm good point, damn =\

ajmargarine · #6 09-27-2005, 03:46 AM

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You think he's limping with QQ/KK/TT? If he has a boat, oh well. Push city.

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...or Q9/T9/K9. That being said, I like the push on the river.

energyjoe · #7 09-27-2005, 03:50 AM

I put the Villain on Jx betting for nice value on river. Most players would bet this flop (draw possibilities) with a set. With that action a full house is a rarity I think. Definitely raise the river.

After checking the results this is more obvious. You had a read didn't you? "Villain is pretty bad". Go with it.

NaobisDad · #8 09-27-2005, 03:59 AM

YOu should raise this river. I had a situation just like this the other day, and I called the river. I hit the button and thought...wtf did I do?

xorbie · #9 09-27-2005, 04:30 AM

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You think he's limping with QQ/KK/TT? If he has a boat, oh well. Push city.

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...or Q9/T9/K9. That being said, I like the push on the river.

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Yeah but then at least you have BBE (bad beat equity).

TomBrooks · #10 09-27-2005, 07:23 AM

I call the river.

But I would have pushed all in on the turn on this highly coordinated board where opponents could have flush draws and two pair drawing to a boat. Don't try to get more money in the pot here. Try to win it immediately.