A fancy play I make against certian players. How stupid? - Page 4

TomBrooks · #31 09-26-2005, 05:49 PM

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Absolutely not! You're investing 5BB (3SB + 1SB + 1BB + 2BB) to win 4BB!
If it only works 30% of the time, your EV is:
(.3)(+4BB) + (.7)(-5BB) = 1.2BB - 3.5BB = -2.3BB
In order for you to break even, he must fold 55% of the time!

[/ QUOTE ]Oh crap. Thanks for setting me straight. The other poster said so and it didn't register. Yeah, now I see why this is a bad play. He may fold 30% of the time but not 55%. Thread over.

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Does he have to fold 55% of the time to make this a good play? Wouldn't that only be true if your only chance of winning the hand was to make him fold? J9 seems like a pretty good hand against a random hand. How about playing it preflop but only continuing on a favorable flop?

If so, is a preflop raise or a complete better?

On this hand you did not get a favorable flop. So check/fold looks good to me here.

JohnnyHumongous · #32 09-26-2005, 05:55 PM

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This player is a good hand reader, very agressive, and will put you to the test every hand.

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so why does he suck? (according to sthief)

brick · #33 09-26-2005, 06:55 PM

Isn't is possible to be too agressive?

TheMetetron · #34 09-26-2005, 07:45 PM

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This player is a good hand reader, very agressive, and will put you to the test every hand.

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so why does he suck? (according to sthief)

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Because brick's assessment of this guy is wrong.

He does suck and sthief is totally right.

His hand is permanently attached to the bet/raise buttons.

Entity · #35 09-26-2005, 07:51 PM

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This player is a good hand reader, very agressive, and will put you to the test every hand.

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I don't think feurinho is a good handreader at all, but he will put you to a test. I often take very passive lines against him, and in this hand I'd probably check-call, check-call, check-fold. I don't think the river checkraise will show enough profit against him in the longrun, because he seems to pay me off frequently with pretty marginal hands.

Rob

brick · #36 09-26-2005, 07:53 PM

whatever. I didn't say he was good. Maybe 'good hand reader' was too much credit, but I didn't say he was good.

chio · #37 09-26-2005, 09:20 PM

i don't get it, you're trying to bluff a loose maniac. what's even worse, he's not folding any pair or ace on the river, so you're spending 2 bets hoping he has (and folds) exactly Q high?