Extracting maximum or chip spewing?

NSchandler · #1 09-25-2005, 07:30 PM

First orbit, not enough hands to get a good read on villain yet.

Is my raise on the river just spewing?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
7 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (13.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

Bascule · #2 09-25-2005, 07:51 PM

I think the river raise is overplaying your hand slightly. You've shown maximum strength throughout, and he's still betting into you on the river. There's a pair on the board, if your oppo is sane surely he has a boat.

TheHammer24 · #3 09-25-2005, 08:01 PM

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I think the river raise is overplaying your hand slightly. You've shown maximum strength throughout, and he's still betting into you on the river. There's a pair on the board, if your oppo is sane surely he has a boat.

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He probably has 2nd nut flush. Capping would be overplaying it. Anyway, you clearly lost this hand if you are posting it here.

Buckmulligan · #4 09-25-2005, 08:02 PM

I'm not sure I raise the end. We're not folding, but I think the raise is pretty bad.

BurnsvilleCardClub · #5 09-25-2005, 08:06 PM

Hard to say really. He three bet you pref-flop having probably little or no read on you yet either. So his rage of hands I think in this situation is slightly higher than normal because you did conflict in his mind what might be a position raise. I think a river call is fine here because he is reresenting TT, QQ, I cant put him on KK based on the turn, or an Terribly overplayed AA. Chip-spewing? No but I think with his steam a river call may be best bet here

#6 09-25-2005, 08:06 PM

Very few opponents will only have 2nd flush when they 3-bet the river.

Bascule · #7 09-25-2005, 08:14 PM

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I think the river raise is overplaying your hand slightly. You've shown maximum strength throughout, and he's still betting into you on the river. There's a pair on the board, if your oppo is sane surely he has a boat.

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He probably has 2nd nut flush. Capping would be overplaying it. Anyway, you clearly lost this hand if you are posting it here.

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I can't construct a hand with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in it that makes sense given the earlier action. He raised preflop, but I don't think JJ is consistent with the turn action. I expect to see TT or KK here. BTW I'm not folding the river, even if I raised by accident, in case he's a nutter.