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my drawing hand
table is 27/6/2.13
villain is 59/0/1.44 I think I liked this hand, but I'm not sure. So, what do you think? All streets, please. FullTilt Poker $.25/$.50 <font color="#0000FF">(9 handed)</font> link Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks. Flop: ($1.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.25</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, CO folds, BB calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.25. Turn: ($3.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.50. River: ($5.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $1.50</font>, Hero calls $0.50. Final Pot: $8.60. |
#2
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Re: my drawing hand
I would fold this preflop. JTo isn't a limping hand in MP, and is maybe barely profitable in LP. I like your flop raise, and the turn raise is automatic. I would've capped it on the river. Yes, the paired board is a bit scary, but not enough to miss the opportunity to extract more bets from him. |
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Re: my drawing hand
Preflop: I don't like the limp. Too weak of a hand in too early of a position. We don't want to pay 2 SB to see a flop. Just fold.
Flop: Why are you raising? You don't have enough equity to raise - if there had been another caller between you and the better, I might agree. Just call. Turn: Fine. River: My instinct is to say cap - MP1 is pretty aggressive for that loose. When I look at it, though, it could definitely be K8 or Q8, so calling seems prudent. Whatever you do, don't fold. Also, it's a good idea to get pot sizes in terms of bets rather than $. It helps with pot odds and also makes the game less about money and more about correct plays. |
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Re: my drawing hand
[ QUOTE ]
I like your flop raise [/ QUOTE ] Why? What do you hope it will accomplish? |
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Re: my drawing hand
Definetly raise the flop. You have an oesd + the equity + a possible free card.
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Re: my drawing hand
Pre-flop:
JT offsuit is a fold pre-flop. Flop: On the flop I don't completely understand the raise. I think this would be a good opportunity to wait for a larger edge later. With four players you are contributing 25% to the pot and you have a draw that is going to come in around 30% of the time. If you hit your draw all of your opponents are virtually drawing dead. That being said I'd pass on my small pot equity edge here and wait for a larger edge later in the hand. Turn: Calling and raising net the same amount of money for the pot on this particular round of betting. I like your raise here thought maybe the first player will re-raise. River: That 8 could be dangerous to your hand.. I'd consider reads here, would he play k8, Q8? Would he limp with 88? I would have to have a read on him to decide how to handle this street. |
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Re: my drawing hand
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Definetly raise the flop. You have an oesd + the equity + a possible free card. [/ QUOTE ] What is your equity? How often will you get a free card? |
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Re: my drawing hand
I would consider capping the flop. Your equity is really close to 33% so any additional bets going in are EV neutral at this point and there's a reasonable chance of getting a free card for no additional cost. It will also give you some information, if he's willing to bet the turn, it looks more like 2 pair or a set than top pair.
His stop and go is very strange, but given that he woke back up when the board paired, it's pretty often a full house. Although it is possible he put you on a strong draw on the turn and came out betting again on the river when he knew you didn't improve, I think once he 3-bets you are in big trouble. |
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Re: my drawing hand
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Preflop: I don't like the limp. Too weak of a hand in too early of a position. We don't want to pay 2 SB to see a flop. Just fold. [/ QUOTE ] Well, JT makes a lot of different nut straights, so I like to play it. I abandon it at the flop if it misses. I would not limp if I was in first, but supposing CO raises, the BB is generally loose and will call, and the EP limper is in, and I'm still getting a good price, aren't I? I know I need JTo with more players in, though. [ QUOTE ] Flop: Why are you raising? You don't have enough equity to raise - if there had been another caller between you and the better, I might agree. Just call. [/ QUOTE ] value, buying the button, and maybe a free card. I don't do this often, but this spot seemed right. If this is not correct, I won't do it again. [ QUOTE ] Turn: Fine. River: My instinct is to say cap - MP1 is pretty aggressive for that loose. When I look at it, though, it could definitely be K8 or Q8, so calling seems prudent. Whatever you do, don't fold. [/ QUOTE ] I still didn't have a great read on villain, so I just called here. I figured we had the same hand at this point. [ QUOTE ] Also, it's a good idea to get pot sizes in terms of bets rather than $. It helps with pot odds and also makes the game less about money and more about correct plays. [/ QUOTE ] That's funky. My exe hand converter has put them in SB's and BB's before. I'm scratching my head here. |
#10
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Re: my drawing hand
If you don't raise your OESD's, then when are you raising?
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