10-20 colluders

[Pike]

If anyone has been playing the 10-20 limit games on party beware of colluders. GTI_43 AND Miro41 were obvioulsy working as a team. Here are some abbreivated hand histories of their postflop ploys.


** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 5d, 6d ]
zeus91242 checks.
numberT checks.
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 bets [$10].
zeus91242 calls [$10].
numberT folds.
GTI_43 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
zeus91242 checks.
GTI_43 bets [$20].
Miro41 calls [$20].
zeus91242 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
zeus91242 checks.
GTI_43 bets [$20].
Miro41 raises [$40].
zeus91242 folds.
GTI_43 folds.
Miro41 does not show cards.
Miro41 wins $232



** Dealing Flop ** [ 6d, Td, 9s ]
Miro41 checks.
WaveyDee checks.
poogeyman checks.
GTI_43 bets [$10].
Miro41 raises [$20].
WaveyDee folds.
poogeyman folds.
GTI_43 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
Miro41 checks.
GTI_43 bets [$20].
Miro41 folds.
GTI_43 does not show cards.
GTI_43 wins $152


** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 5s, Kd ]
cherrybomb2 checks.
floydwizard checks.
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
cherrybomb2 bets [$20].
floydwizard folds.
GTI_43 calls [$20].
Miro41 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
cherrybomb2 checks.
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 bets [$20].
cherrybomb2 calls [$20].
GTI_43 raises [$40].
Miro41 folds.
floydwizard: see like that
cherrybomb2 calls [$20].
GTI_43 shows [ 9d, Ad ] a flush, ace high.
cherrybomb2 doesn't show [ 9s, Td ] a pair of tens.
GTI_43 wins $202 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.


** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 5d, 6d ]
zeus91242 checks.
numberT checks.
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 bets [$10].
zeus91242 calls [$10].
numberT folds.
GTI_43 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
zeus91242 checks.
GTI_43 bets [$20].
Miro41 calls [$20].
zeus91242 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
zeus91242 checks.
GTI_43 bets [$20].
Miro41 raises [$40].
zeus91242 folds.
GTI_43 folds.
Miro41 does not show cards.
Miro41 wins $232


** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 7h, 5s ]
zeus91242 checks.
numberT checks.
cherrybomb2: if these two morons are working together they better have a big bankroll
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 bets [$10].
zeus91242 calls [$10].
numberT folds.
GTI_43 raises [$20].
Miro41 calls [$10].
zeus91242 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
zeus91242 checks.
GTI_43 bets [$20].
Miro41 calls [$20].
zeus91242 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 checks.
GTI_43 shows [ Ah, As ] two pairs, aces and sevens.
Miro41 doesn't show [ 6c, Jd ] two pairs, jacks and sevens.
GTI_43 wins $137 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and sevens.


I emailed party, but knowing party they won't do anything about it. So just a heads up for anyone who plays in those games, to either avoid those 2 or exploit the hell out of them.

[shant]

This doesn't look like collusion.

[Voltron87]

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This doesn't look like collusion.

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lol, i saw how long it was so i didnt read it and that was exactly the reply i expected.

[Pike]

so you're saying that betting on the river, having another raise, and then folding to one bet (all to force out the 3rd player) is not collusion?

What about these hands

** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, Td, 6s ]
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 checks.
cathederjoe bets [$10].
floydwizard folds.
GTI_43 calls [$10].
Miro41 calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 checks.
cathederjoe bets [$20].
GTI_43 calls [$20].
Miro41 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 2c ]
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 bets [$20].
cathederjoe calls [$20].
GTI_43 raises [$40].
Miro41 calls [$20].
cathederjoe folds.
GTI_43 shows [ 3h, Ts ] a pair of tens.
Miro41 shows [ 6d, 2h ] two pairs, sixes and twos.
Miro41 wins $277 from the main pot with two pairs, sixes and twos.

So GTI_43 raises on the river with 2nd pair to extract another bet out of cathederjoe because Miro41 has two pair.

Or this hand

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Pikealot [ 9h 9c ]
DasDiWanIWin folds.
Miro41 calls [$10].
cathederjoe folds.
ultimatebeat folds.
Pikealot raises [$20].
zeus91242 folds.
numberT folds.
GTI_43 calls [$15].
I_RAIZE_U raises [$20].
Miro41 calls [$20].
Pikealot calls [$10].
GTI_43 calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5h, Td, 8d ]
GTI_43 checks.
I_RAIZE_U checks.
Miro41 bets [$10].
Pikealot calls [$10].
GTI_43 raises [$20].
I_RAIZE_U folds.
Miro41 calls [$10].
Pikealot calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
GTI_43 bets [$20].
Miro41 raises [$40].
Pikealot calls [$40].
GTI_43 calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
GTI_43 checks.
Miro41 checks.
Pikealot checks.
GTI_43 shows [ Ts, Qd ] a pair of tens.
Miro41 doesn't show [ Kc, 8c ] a pair of eights.
Pikealot doesn't show [ 9h, 9c ] a pair of nines.
GTI_43 wins $297 from the main pot with a pair of tens.

Where Miro41 raises the turn with 3rd pair and no draws to force me out of a large pot. And they pretty much give up on the river when I made it clear on the turn i wasn't going anywhere.

[Pike]

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This doesn't look like collusion.

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lol, i saw how long it was so i didnt read it and that was exactly the reply i expected.

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Well I tried to cutoff all the extraneous stuff from the hands. But it's really not that long. So if you have a few seconds to spare look over the hands, and there's no way you can tell me that these 2 were obviously colluding.

[randomstumbl]

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This doesn't look like collusion.

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lol, i saw how long it was so i didnt read it and that was exactly the reply i expected.

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Well I tried to cutoff all the extraneous stuff from the hands. But it's really not that long. So if you have a few seconds to spare look over the hands, and there's no way you can tell me that these 2 were obviously colluding.

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Just email support. I've only done it once, but the collusion was obvious and I got an email back within a couple hours saying they had banned the players.

Support can actually do something; random forum postings won't.

[shant]

The later 2 hands you posted look more like collusion. The first ones did not. I've seen plenty of people bet/fold a river, but those 2nd two hands are more convincing. Next time post those first. Also, email support.

[Uglyowl]

Some of it looks suspicious, some does not. Party will know there hole cards to see if the play makes sense. Hope you get them busted.

[Guthrie]

Posting people's screen names here is merely bad etiquette. Accusing them of collusion could get you sued.

[tubalkain]

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Posting people's screen names here is merely bad etiquette. Accusing them of collusion could get you sued.

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If they're in the US, I'm not sure how that would work. Accusing someone of cheating in an "illegal" game can't really be slander, as the penalties the cheaters would take for whatever the Justice Department decides to throw at them would be infinitely worse than the few bucks the OP would have to pay them.