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No real reads here. Uncomfortable on all streets.
Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls. Flop: (10.66 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (6.83 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. River: (9.83 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Final Pot: 12.83 BB |
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That really does look uncomfortable. To overcall the river though, you have to figure BB for QQ or JJ and also for UTG+1 to have something you beat. I think you have a solid fold on the river.
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PF/flop/turn perfect.
river v clear fold... why would you pay off here? how ridiculous is that? |
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what I want to know is how you have no real reads at a full table like that. Just seems unreasonable considering the tools available today.
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what sorta overcall on the river is that?? woah man!
otherwise it's fine. you could raise the turn. |
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If you're planning on calling the river no matter what, you might as well semi bluff raise the turn, maybe mp will fold some hands that beats you.
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[ QUOTE ]
No real reads here. Uncomfortable on all streets. Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls. Flop: (10.66 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: (6.83 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. River: (9.83 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls. Final Pot: 12.83 BB [/ QUOTE ] fold the river. i may even consider folding the flop. what can BB have that you beat here? |
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If it weren't for UTG is would be an easy call down...
Flop bet could easily be a continuation bet by BB. UTG could have a worse king, JT, JQ. You have backdoor flush and straight draws. 5 cards for two pair. (discount these to 4 outs) If a brick falls on the turn and BB bets and UTG calls I think it's a fold. Problem is comes when a brick falls and BB checks on the turn, UTG will often bet his worse King or A high. So you have another borderline decision. IMO this borderline decision is what makes the flop hard to play. EDIT: forgot this was 9 handed. Flop call is very boarderline if the BB and UTG are reasonable players. |
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Raise the flop to see if BB 3 bet's, which may also get UTG out. If he 3 bets again OOP and leads the turn, peel that card and fold river UI. That would be too strong a play for QQ or TT there.
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Not so hot on that river overcall. When I first looked at the hand, my first thought was to pop the turn. Probably what Id do.
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