Disconnects... Deliberate! or otherwise?

AmericanAirlines · #1 09-16-2003, 02:18 PM

Hi Everyone,
In another topic someone mentioned that there may, in fact, be deliberate disconnects with online poker?

Does anyone else believe this?

Also, what happens to the money when a disconnect is detected?

Sincerely,
AA

PlayerA · #2 09-16-2003, 02:33 PM

It happens. The situation usually occurs in NL or PL with the disconnect faces the following conditions:

1. On a draw after the flop or turn.
2. Has a lot of money already invested in the pot.
3. Faces a big bet where they are not getting the proper odds for a call.

The site will treat them as all-in (unless they have hit a limit or something and site rules vary on this). If they hit on the end, they get their share of the pot up to the point where they disconnected.

I don't know how common it is. It's only happened to me a few times (that someone did an obvious all-in disconnect).

AmericanAirlines · #3 09-16-2003, 03:21 PM

So this is to say the player initiates the disconnect?

One poster sounded as if it happened due to the Online Casino, and it had somehow cost him $100?

Sincerely,
AA

PlayerA · #4 09-16-2003, 03:41 PM

This may be an issue that is different than the one I outlined. I outlined an issue that used by unscrupulous players shooting an angle in online poker. The victim is the other player in the game not the disconnected player.

The issue you mention sounds different. It is possible if a person is in a no-disconnect game or has used all of their all-ins, then they can lose any money in the pot if they become disconnected. The all-in protection feature is designed to protect players from accidental disconnects. The limits on this feature are designed to protect players from abusers of this feature.

yocalif · #5 09-17-2003, 01:58 AM

A day or two ago, a player on UB, in a NL $100 max buy-in used this tactic. His intentional disconnects cost me over $100.

I jotted down the hand numbers, player's name, table name, and fired off a email to UB support. I asked 3 things:
1. Remove the player from the table.
2. Do Not RESET his all-in protection for 24hrs.
3. Send him a warning via email.

Well it about 5 minutes and he was booted from the table, I am guessing he was booted, he left after winning a small pot, there was no other reason for him to leave.

Players using disconnect tactics in NL & PL, should be put on probation and if it occurs a second time, be banned from NL and PL games for 30 days. On UB a player gets 2 All-in Protections, and that is important, I don't want to see it change, but on the other side strict discipline needs to be dealt to those using this tactic.

crockpot · #6 09-17-2003, 02:23 AM

i'm still mad at someone on UB for "mysteriously" disconnecting during a PLO8 hand where ATT8x was on board and he cut off his internet to avoid calling a pot-size raise with T8xx when i held AAxx. his internet somehow came back exactly two hands later.

i wonder if a server like paradise or stars would have gone and deducted the money from his account and given it to me, but all i got from ub was a "we'll look into it." bastards.

these guys are rare, but they are definitely out there.

MaqEvil · #7 09-17-2003, 02:32 AM

I just encountered my first obvious intentional disconnect, $50 NL SNG, 4 people left, 100/200 blinds. I raised to 600 with KQ UTG, button called, blinds folded, flop came Kxx, I set him all in and he timed out, with JJ. This, in and of itself was enough to warrant an email to party. Immediately in the next hand, he's UTG and raises all in with AQ. Everyone at the table agrees that this is obviously all in abuse. I still won the tourney but this cost the 4th place finisher $100. After checking a recent thread, I sent an email to both alerts@partypoker.com and lucyjones@partypoker.com. Hopefully they'll take care of the situation.

Hotchile · #8 09-17-2003, 02:58 AM

Ok, too late.

This is an all too frequent occurrence. You will see it in NL and PL games and in tournaments. Personally, I don't think it should be a feature in these types of games due to the sheer magnitude of their effect.

I hope that sites all take the position that the harm of a player who is legitimately disconnected, is a great deal less than the harm done to somebody who is victimized by a deliberate disconnect. IMHO.

HC

kylemontero · #9 09-17-2003, 03:15 AM

You can do it on party poker all the time. I reported a guy to support they say he did nothing wrong he lost connection. But on poker stars when i did the same they said that this person really has internet problems, he got diss-connected like 100 times forcing like 30 all in's.

Different person but at least poker stars took the complaint as a complaint and not as some idiot just bitching.

Loosemoron · #10 09-17-2003, 04:26 AM

[censored] happens. Stop whining. I get disconnected all the time. Usually when drawing to an inside-str8 and facing a raise. That's what all-ins are for. It's a weapon in any good players strategy. Works fine for me. Made me 67 BB within the last 39 days. Thx god for all-in-protection.

Have fun

LM