Frozen Again

Altaslim · #1 09-20-2005, 06:18 PM

No substantive reads here: BB has been around 5 hands and played three of them. SB has seen 9 hands and has played 7 of them.

After the flop action I am thinking I'm behind to a set or perhaps AT, but I commit to calling and looking him up. Then the dreaded river check comes and I don't know what to do. As I look at it now it seems an easy bet/call (or is it bet/fold???).

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB caps, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (13 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks..... Ack, I almost choke. 

Final Pot: 13 BB

marsvolta619 · #2 09-20-2005, 06:28 PM

As bad as this sounds, this would depend on the kind of day I'm having, as this is pretty marginal either way. I'm feeling a bet right now though. I'm sure we all can make a case for both, but to me this reeks like a flush+straight draw for BB and Ax for SB. This hand, IMO, also makes a case for 3-betting calling stations like the blinds were here

Altaslim · #3 09-20-2005, 06:30 PM

3 betting in position is something I'm trying to grow the sack to do. Anyone else agree with the 3bet pf?

Rubeskies · #4 09-20-2005, 06:32 PM

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3 betting in position is something I'm trying to grow the sack to do. Anyone else agree with the 3bet pf?

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Yeah, it's pretty standard.

marsvolta619 · #5 09-20-2005, 06:36 PM

A sack is not grown, a sack is born... or something. Anyways, interesting scenario I thought of... what would you have done if SB bet out and BB called? BB folded?

Altaslim · #6 09-20-2005, 06:39 PM

1)SB bets, BB calls....I call because I'm getting 15-1.

2)SB bets, BB folds....I put BB on busted draw, SB 2pr, Ax..I call getting 14-1.

Right??? Wrong???

MoDOH · #7 09-20-2005, 06:46 PM

I think you need to bet/call this...

SB is on a draw of some kind and BB checking that river blank indicates that he also is on some draw, My guess is that BB have KT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] or something similar at least...

zephed · #8 09-21-2005, 04:28 AM

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3 betting in position is something I'm trying to grow the sack to do. Anyone else agree with the 3bet pf?

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Yes.

BreakEvenPlayer · #9 09-21-2005, 04:41 AM

altaslim,

3-betting PF is a must here. most of the time you are going to knock out the blinds, and you will be taking control of the hand with position.

Looks like BB had a flush draw here, small chance of T6. SB has an ace weaker than yours or a draw. I go ahead and bet this river hoping to get paid off.

wheelz · #10 09-21-2005, 05:14 AM

you have to bet that river... why would they suddenly check better hands to you? easy bet. if you do get check-raised yeah it's worth one more bet to see a showdown.

also 3-bet preflop, aq is a monster shorthanded.