SIMPLE 100/200 HAND. RIVER DECISION.

[flawless_victory]

steve gs post was quite good, i think, and my thought process was similar to his regarding the hand... if the turn hadnt been a third diamond, id still have check/called, but id have readily check/folded the river...
i thought it was prob kind of obvious that id picjed up the flush draw and because of this i payed off the river getting 6:1...
he rolled 22. it was good. fvck.

[amulet]

i understand why you want to see the river for the D. i think the river is a fold. as for the turn; if you assume you are behind on the turn, from the range of hands he could easily have a bigger diamond (or a set). so several of your outs may not be good. that is why i think it is a fold, close but a fold. sorry i should have said this in my first post.

[flawless_victory]

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i understand why you want to see the river for the D. i think the river is a fold. if you assume you are behind on the turn, from the range of hands he probably has it is almost 50/50 he has a diamond. so only 1/2 of your outs at best are good. that is why i think it is a fold.

[/ QUOTE ]sorry, but all of this is wrong.\
i dont assume im behind.
he does not have a d 1/2 he time.
1/2 my outs are good at best? which half? where are you?
im surprised you didnt suggest a PF fold.

[amulet]

the preflop fold was cute. so many get into argument instead of constructive conversation. nice to see a sense of humor here.

i think you are behind, if your not then i and most other posters are wrong. however, if you are behind, as you know, there are 9 cards to hit your flush. of those if he had a set 2 are gone. if he has AK, with 4 kings not seen, he is 25% to have K of D. if he has AQ, he is also 33% to have Q of D (would this player call your raise with AQ, in your initial post you seem to say yes). to both these hands you are behind now and the flush will cost you more. i play 100/200 often and while there are bad loose players, i think if he calls a turn bet and are behind. it is close to the correct price to continue (assuming your behind) for the flush, but i think it is a slight fold. (a case could be made for the two J's which are likely outs and support your call). if you bet the turn, he might fold. if your correct and there is a good chance you were ahead.......then nice read.

so what happened?

[flawless_victory]

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so what happened?

[/ QUOTE ]i called and lost.

[amulet]

sorry. to what hand?

[flawless_victory]

are you just messing with me?
(maybe check "results" post)

[amulet]

no. just missed it

[flawless_victory]

so much for clearly being behind on the flop...

[JimmyV]

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he rolled 22. it was good. fvck.

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What the heck are you upset about? You played the hand perfectly -- as it happens, in precisely the way you would have if you could see his cards. You're living the Fundamental Theorem of Poker here, willy-nilly, on the first three streets. And yes you have the odds to call the river against this guy -- look at the flop call he made!

Well played, pat yourself on the back for losing almost the minimum.

JimmyV