maximum extraction with AA out of the BB

[EnderIII]

Any better way to get more chips in the middle? and how much should i bet on the river? 10+1 tourney just after the first break.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t2580)
UTG (t3471)
UTG+1 (t482)
UTG+2 (t895)
MP1 (t1810)
MP2 (t2128)
MP3 (t638)
CO (t3705)
Button (t3317)
SB (t1150)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, CO calls t250.

Flop: (t1050) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t525</font>, Hero calls t525.

Turn: (t2100) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (t2100) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2100

[TomHimself]

wow. why the miniraise? why are you playing aces so scared. if your gonna check atleast check-raise flop. and dont miniraise

[EnderIII]

I wasn't playing them scared, i was trying to induce as much action as possible and i think minraise preflop indicates a great deal of strength because it is so hard to fold to (but i don't think low buy-in people tend to realize how strong it is...so i do it to keep the late postion raiser along for the ride who may well just be trying to steal the blinds...a big raise here earns my a whopping 400 chips, i can get those results with JJ, TT or perhaps even random garbage). as far as the flop, thats part of why i posted, to see if a check raise or a flat call is more likely to end up with the chips in the middle. also, it seems to me that a check raise only gets called by a king to which i am signficantly behind.

[TomHimself]

77-QQ will all call ur checkraise and you really didnt convince that a miniraise is worth anything

[EnderIII]

thanks for the input, i would not have guessed that the calling range would have been that wide if i would have checkraised all in. So that may have been a better play. I just think there is a common misconception that passive = scared and eliminating the ability to play a hand passivley will drastically cut down on your ability to get chips from overly aggressive players. Like this hand for example

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t1765)
UTG (t3295)
UTG+1 (t705)
UTG+2 (t840)
MP1 (t1830)
MP2 (t2160)
MP3 (t888)
CO (t600)
Button (t1657)
SB (t845)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t90) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t30</font>, SB calls t30, Hero calls t30.

Turn: (t180) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t55</font>, SB folds, Hero calls t55.

River: (t290) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t200</font>, Hero calls t200.

Final Pot: t690