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Old 09-13-2005, 11:18 AM
pokerbo pokerbo is offline
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Default Re: Another Early Push

Either an A7, set of 5's or 8's??? I think both of you bet too much on the flop, who wants to risk so much without a very strong hand so early on...now I think about even more he had to have a small set or just a donkey???
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Another Early Push

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Either an A7, set of 5's or 8's??? I think both of you bet too much on the flop, who wants to risk so much without a very strong hand so early on...now I think about even more he had to have a small set or just a donkey???

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I should have posted that it is the $5+1's. I'm just getting started with sit and go's. I just finished HOH V1 and am half way through V2. It is clear in retrospect that villian probably had a set. Since I was not pot comitted I should have laid down the JJ rather than pushing. However, I dont tend to give the 5+1'ers very much credit and just was putting him on high cards or TP with a good kicker, thinking I was way ahead and he was trying to push me off the pot.

I dont think that a pot sized bet though was a bad play to lead off with. I thought that most likely I was ahead and since I was in bad position I wanted to lead out with a strong bet. I didnt want to let villian in cheap in case he had a straight draw.

I guess that it was basic HOH to not push here though. I just couldnt give villian more credit. The funny thing is later in the day in a different tourney, I limped 44 and hit a set busting out a guy in exactly the same fashion that I was busted out here.

I dont have the tools to run a +/-Ev evaluation here. Can anyone tell against the range of hands if this was a +EV push?

Greg
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Old 09-13-2005, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Another Early Push

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Either an A7, set of 5's or 8's??? I think both of you bet too much on the flop, who wants to risk so much without a very strong hand so early on...now I think about even more he had to have a small set or just a donkey???

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I see the same play a lot with 66 or A6
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:47 PM
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Either an A7, set of 5's or 8's??? I think both of you bet too much on the flop, who wants to risk so much without a very strong hand so early on...now I think about even more he had to have a small set or just a donkey???

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I see the same play a lot with 66 or A6

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Yeah I totally agree with you. And as this is a low limit $5 sng I think these players could have a number of donkey hands. Preflop you need to raise more to get the donkeys out or at least make them pay big for seeing the flop.

A bet of 110 preflop is probably your best move here, if you get two callers and one player moves all-in you have to think.)

A) I can probably fold this and find a better spot or
B) +EV against these low limit Gus Hansen wannabes I call

Like I said I think you played the hand fine on the flop, you just need to to make'em pay preflop.
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