need thumbs up/thumbs down on a lay down

#1 09-10-2005, 12:59 AM

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MP1 ($392)
MP2 ($11.35)
Hero ($100)
CO ($92)
Button ($52.50)
SB ($23.35)
BB ($102)
UTG ($23.20)
UTG+1 ($117.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG calls $2, MP1 calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($13.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, MP1 bets $5, Hero raises to $15, Button folds, UTG folds, MP1 raises to $25, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($63.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets $30, Hero folds

Final Pot: $63.50

good lay downs are, um...not my strong suit

yay or nay?

stu-unger · #2 09-10-2005, 01:02 AM

do u have a read that accompanies this laydown??

i think a set probably plays this about the same so...

#3 09-10-2005, 01:05 AM

i didn't have a read except that he seemed like a conscious player.

do you really think a set could repop the flop, for the minimum?

stu-unger · #4 09-10-2005, 01:08 AM

i think u probably made a stellar laydown honestly, but i do know that i've seen donks play sets just like this on monotone boards. the min raise/1/2 pot lead is what leads me to believe u r behind.

#5 09-10-2005, 01:11 AM

Oh man, this hand sucks. I would stay in--probably just call the turn and call/check behind again on a non-heart or non-board-pairing card. What I would do if a heart other than the six fell or if the board paired would depend too much on my read of the player and his river action to say.

I'm not sure this is right, but I'm pretty sure this is what I do without a read.

orange · #6 09-10-2005, 01:32 AM

Why even call with this hand PF? Because its sooooted?

Well, you hit your flush. I don't understand the turn fold-especially when its a non-heart. Why even call the flop in the first place?

If your folding a (pretty much) blank turn, fold the flop. Instead of folding a blank turn, I think I push here instead.

Er0si0n · #7 09-10-2005, 01:34 AM

I think I would have called, check/call on a non-heart , or non board pairing River too. Theres a chance you are behind, but theres a more liekly chance that you are against trips i think.

ajmargarine · #8 09-10-2005, 01:54 AM

Professional small stakes NL genius Orin (The Blade) Petulsky says:

#9 09-10-2005, 02:28 AM

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Why even call with this hand PF? Because its sooooted?

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in games this deep stacked, i like to limp suited gappers and [censored] in late position. i was getting 7:2 on the first pf call and 21:4 on the second one, but mostly, MP1 had such a huge stack that I was trying to find cheap ways into pots that he'd entered because of the implied odds. maybe both pf calls are wrong, i don't know, and i'm not necessarily saying that they aren't, but the point is, don't waste your time being a patronizing [censored].

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Well, you hit your flush. I don't understand the turn fold-especially when its a non-heart. Why even call the flop in the first place?

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because i couldn't fold a flush for $10 with $53.50 in the pot.

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If your folding a (pretty much) blank turn, fold the flop. Instead of folding a blank turn, I think I push here instead.

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okay. i think i would have if it was party, fweiw.

#10 09-10-2005, 02:29 AM

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Professional small stakes NL genius Orin (The Blade) Petulsky says:

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go [censored] yourself, mr. cheney.