QQ from MP. LOTS of action

[cs3]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

UTG ($24.05)
Hero ($48.10)
CO ($39.30)
Button ($5.30)
SB ($24.85)
BB ($17.07)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.75</font>, CO calls $3.75, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $4.25, CO calls $4.25.

Flop: ($24.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>

What now? should this be an easy fold?

How did i play the queens preflop? Did i donk it up by reraising and then just flat calling the 3 bet? I really didnt expect CO to call preflop. I think he called only becasue i did... if i would have folded he probbaly would have too.
no read on UTG, notes on CO say "smart player, does not over play big pairs, checked behind on river with AA on paired board to win nice pot."

[Hoopster81]

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Did i donk it up [pre-flop]?

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Yes. Re-raise $6-8, and fold to his 3-bet.

[cs3]

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Did i donk it up [pre-flop]?

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Yes. Re-raise $6-8, and fold to his 3-bet.

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8 seems a little much... 4 times his initial raise?
regardelss, what if he flat calls me after i raise it to 6 preflop? how do i play the flop then?

[brian94709]

Looks like UTG opened with a large 8xbb raise. So once you get 3-bet, the stacks are now not big enough for you to have implied odds on hitting a set. I think because of the size of UTG's opening raise, I would just call it, so as not to get in the situation you're in now: after getting 3-bet, you have to fold.

[ajmargarine]

I don't mind the minraise preflop so much. It used to really bug me, but I use it from time to time these days. It actually does a few things. It *usually* shuts out everyone behind you from entering the hand without a serious premium hand. It also tells you alot by how the PFR reacts. Here he raised you. You pretty much have to fold preflop to that or push. Calling wasn't an option.

[Malachii]

Hey CS,

Extremely easy fold. When he 3 bets preflop, you should be playing for set value. Also, what is with your reraise preflop? I'd make it at least $6.

[Malachii]

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regardelss, what if he flat calls me after i raise it to 6 preflop? how do i play the flop then?

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Very carefully when an ace flops. If it's heads up, I'd bet ~2/3rds and try to check it down if he calls that bet.

[ajmargarine]

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When he 3 bets preflop, you should be playing for set value.

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According to the 5/10 rule, OP shouldn't have made the second call to play for set value as villian's stack isn't large enough.

[Malachii]

Meh. I didn't notice UTG's stack size. If UTG had a full stack, I would argue that calling 4$ here to see a flop in a 24$ pot where you have big implied odds would be fine. But yeah, with his stack size calling for set value isn't really an option.

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Extremely easy fold.