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#1
09-09-2005, 02:06 PM
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Re: i hate AKs
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[ QUOTE ] lol ya, because postflop play is sooooooooo important at the fivedollarlevel. bwahahahaha Why bother playing postflop with players that play 9Ts to the flop for 175 chips when they will also play 9Ts to the flop for 800 chips. [/ QUOTE ] Post-flop poker is especially important here because hero has (hopefully) more skill than the other players. If you have an advantage over the table, why squander it on a coin-flip? [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. I play $5 SNGs as well with 1500 starting stacks. I've found that there's almost no reason to risk your stack that early on (25/50 blinds) without AA or KK. Like 45 said, the longer you stick around the bigger edge you have since your skill will hopefully carry you ITM even if you don't put yourself in great position to get 1st. I've played a bunch of tourneys where I just sit back for the first 3-5 levels and watch other people f**k up and take each other out. No need to gamble for your tourney life right here. 
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09-09-2005, 02:37 PM
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Re: i hate AKs
I am being coy this morning.
Let me rephrase some things. A) I dont think pushing is the best option. B) Post flop play isnt very important at a $5 SnG in the early levels C) Post flop play isnt very important at a $5 SnG period D) Early play at a $5 SnG is hardly important either, so clicking autofold and fixing a snack while not paying attention to level 1-3 is still + EV at that level. Bottom line imnsho It doesnt matter what you do with AK in this particular situation as long as it is reasonable. You can argue till blue in the face about it... It is marginal and depends greatly on what kind of player YOU are. There is no B&W answer for the masses.
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09-09-2005, 02:41 PM
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It doesnt matter what you do with AK in this particular situation as long as it is reasonable. [/ QUOTE ] Call or push in this situation, it's close. There's no clear answer. It depends on your style to some degree.
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09-09-2005, 02:56 PM
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Re: i hate AKs
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I am being coy this morning. Let me rephrase some things. A) I dont think pushing is the best option. B) Post flop play isnt very important at a $5 SnG in the early levels C) Post flop play isnt very important at a $5 SnG period D) Early play at a $5 SnG is hardly important either, so clicking autofold and fixing a snack while not paying attention to level 1-3 is still + EV at that level. Bottom line imnsho It doesnt matter what you do with AK in this particular situation as long as it is reasonable. You can argue till blue in the face about it... It is marginal and depends greatly on what kind of player YOU are. There is no B&W answer for the masses. [/ QUOTE ] Fair enough. But how is a hand that is dominated only by 2 other hands (6 card combinations), marginal? It may be overplayed by many, but AK is by no means marginal. You are rarely behind if you hit the flop with it.
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09-09-2005, 03:31 PM
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Re: i hate AKs
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Fair enough. But how is a hand that is dominated only by 2 other hands (6 card combinations), marginal? It may be overplayed by many, but AK is by no means marginal. You are rarely behind if you hit the flop with it. [/ QUOTE ] He is saying the push/call decision is marginal, not the holding itself.
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09-09-2005, 03:56 PM
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Re: i hate AKs
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I am being coy this morning. Let me rephrase some things. A) I dont think pushing is the best option. B) Post flop play isnt very important at a $5 SnG in the early levels C) Post flop play isnt very important at a $5 SnG period D) Early play at a $5 SnG is hardly important either, so clicking autofold and fixing a snack while not paying attention to level 1-3 is still + EV at that level. [/ QUOTE ] If one's only goal is to be a winner at the 5's then you are probably correct about the importance of post-flop play. However OP is clearly trying to improve his game. By being "coy" I think you're doing a great disservice to the OP and new readers who don't know enough to distinguish good advice from bad. If he doesn't learn any post-flop play at the 5's, how is he ever going to learn it?
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#7
09-09-2005, 04:12 PM
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Re: i hate AKs
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If one's only goal is to be a winner at the 5's then you are probably correct about the importance of post-flop play. However OP is clearly trying to improve his game. By being "coy" I think you're doing a great disservice to the OP and new readers who don't know enough to distinguish good advice from bad. If he doesn't learn any post-flop play at the 5's, how is he ever going to learn it? [/ QUOTE ] By playing ring games or deep stacked MTT. If you want to learn post flop play SNG's are probably the last place I'd try.
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09-09-2005, 05:13 PM
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Re: i hate AKs
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[ QUOTE ] If he doesn't learn any post-flop play at the 5's, how is he ever going to learn it? [/ QUOTE ] By playing ring games or deep stacked MTT. If you want to learn post flop play SNG's are probably the last place I'd try. [/ QUOTE ] You gotta remember that starting stacks are 15friggin00, which is pretty deep. And if this is like the SNGs I play at pokerroom.com, the blinds start out at 10-20. This gives you PLENTY of room to manuever before it becomes 2 card poker. Playing after the flop is crucial as this is where you get Ax to give his stack to you when you hold AK/AQ after the A flops. Plus, most $5 SNGers are such donks that you can get away from second best hands pretty easily or draw cheaply. I say give THEM as many opportunities as possible to make mistakes so YOU can capitalize.
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