QQ hand

Stork · #1 09-07-2005, 11:38 PM

The main aggressor has tag like stats, the other guy calling is pretty loose passive. This standard?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, MP calls, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero caps, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, MP folds, SB calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

wackjob · #2 09-07-2005, 11:41 PM

standard

Stork · #3 09-08-2005, 05:10 AM

What am I beating on the turn other than a stone bluff?

TomBrooks · #4 09-08-2005, 05:54 AM

[ QUOTE ]
standard

[/ QUOTE ]I can't see folding it. I can't see raising it anymore, especially after the Turn A comes. I put SB on, in this order of likelihood: AA or KK and your lost, JJ and your winning, QQ and your choping, and TT and your lost.

spydog · #5 09-08-2005, 06:19 AM

Your raise came from UTG so the TAG doesn't perceive this as a steal. His 3-bet OOP from the SB will usually mean AJs+, 99+, and maybe KQ. When that turn card hits you are toast, regardless of his turn action. I would fold to the donk and check behind the turn if he checks, preparing to call a river bet.

MrBig30 · #6 09-08-2005, 07:17 AM

I think this pot is too big to fold turn. If MP was still in a fold is fine. SB could still have 99, JJ, KQs, QQ etc and be bluffing at this nice headsup pot hoping you don't have the ace. We only have to be good 1/6 to make a profit from calling down, even less if he would check river after donking turn. And we have almost 1/10 to spike another Q.

Stork · #7 09-08-2005, 03:04 PM

Do JJ or KQ really donkbet the turn like that? Or follow through on the river? OOP donkbetting is the signature bluff move of low limit donks. Assuming the tag knows this, could he really be trying to move me off a hand, especially since there is a good chance the ace helped me? Btw, he held AQo this hand.