KK on paired turn

bizaff · #1 09-06-2005, 07:57 PM

CO is 18/7.4/0. BB is 19/0/3.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

BB ($45.70)
UTG ($117.43)
Hero ($51.10)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($48.45)
MP3 ($49.50)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($25.50)
SB ($29.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, CO raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($15.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $10, BB calls $10, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($45.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35.

Thoughts?

MINETZ · #2 09-06-2005, 07:59 PM

3 bet pf, you need to find were u stand, if he just calls try to get allin on the flop, the way u played it you couldve given someone "free" trips, he could also have AA, u have no idea were u stand, I think you shoudlve found out PF or on the flop.
Noah

JihadOnTheRiver · #3 09-06-2005, 08:07 PM

rereraise PF. Your bet on the turn is obviously not a 9 IMO. The only thing this is going to do is allow you to be pot committed when CO or BB (who is the one CO would believe holds a 9, not you) comes over the top all in. Remember, very few people reraise with QQ, but you can find out very quickly with a "3bet".

xorbie · #4 09-06-2005, 08:41 PM

PF isn't terrible if you pull through and check raise this flop. Please oh please check raise this flop.

bizaff · #5 09-06-2005, 09:12 PM

Yeah, the more I look, the more I'm not a fan of precisely what I did. I effectively check-raised after showing them a free card. I dunno, do you think AA ever folds when I bet here?

I'm trying to figure out what else to do on the turn, but that's the wrong problem. The problem is to avoid the sticky turn decision and get it in on the flop. If I'm going to stay in facing $10, I may as well reraise all in.

bizaff · #6 09-06-2005, 09:12 PM

Generally, I'll reraise this every time, but this was the first time he reraised, and I had this sinking feeling it was aces. After the blind called, I felt even more comfortable just calling.

When the 9 hit, I thought that was the perfect scare card to get AA to fold, but the more I think about it, this would be a better play if I had a lower pocket to fold out more than just AA. I WANT QQ, JJ, TT to stay in, and this loses those. I dunno. This was a weird line.

bizaff · #7 09-07-2005, 01:07 AM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) converter

BB ($45.70)
UTG ($117.43)
Hero ($51.10)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($48.45)
MP3 ($49.50)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($25.50)
SB ($29.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, CO raises to $5, 2 folds, BB calls $4.50, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($15.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $10, BB calls $10, Hero calls $10.

Turn: ($45.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35, CO folds, BB folds.

Final Pot: $80.25

Oh well, weird experiment that sorta worked.

orange · #8 09-07-2005, 02:06 AM

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Please oh please check raise this flop.

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Do you think c/r-ing this flop is the best play? My standard is to lead for full pot. Do you c/r to minimze the field?