TPNK, river decision?

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MP3 is 18.89/8 af 2.09 after 1900 hands, TAGish
SB is 45.22/6.09 af 1.18 after 115 hands

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls, SB calls.

River: (7.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, SB folds, Hero?

What do i possibly beat here? is the pot too big to fold in this spot?

[W. Deranged]

I make a crying call and hope not to see JT. Though a taggish player is going to have this a damn high percentage of the time. Since I'm not willing to give him that exact hand, and we're beating/chopping with some other stuff we should call.

One thing to note is that villain really can't be that good, even if his numbers look taggish. He has already done something in this hand to tell me that he's not great.

Since he's not great, he might well do something silly like call down here with QJ something like that, and then decide to bet the river when checked to him.

[A_C_Slater]

If you're MP3 do you cold call with JT on the flop here?

Were you referring to his MP3 open limp as the not great thing?

[Redd]

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If you're MP3 do you cold call with JT on the flop here?

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I don't see why not?

[TheHip41]

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If you're MP3 do you cold call with JT on the flop here?

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I don't see why not?

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Because the pot is smaller than small. You are getting 3-1 to call and you only have 8 outs, and it might get 3-bet and capped behind you.

[Harv72b]

Save yourself the bet. MP3 looks like a very decent player, and the only hope you had until the river was that he had JTs (which is probably worth the cold call on the flop if he also picked up a backdoor flush draw).

Barring the OESD, I cannot see him calling 2 on the flop and another on the turn with less than top pair/good kicker.

I decided that i wouldnt show the best hand here often enough to call so i folded. I cant see him coldcalling the flop with a worse king or a queen, and his most possible holding (JT) made a straight on the river. The pot gives me 8.5:1 but i dont think its enough in this case.

[Kevroc]

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MP3 is 18.89/8 af 2.09 after 1900 hands

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i thought PokerEdge was banned?

[krubban]

I don't have pokeredge and i still have over 5k hands on some of the regulars where i play.

[Kevroc]

nice one, the most hands i have on any one player is around 3k but my database is over 2.5 million hands and has been compiled since jan 2004.

i do not use pokeredge either just multitable 2 to 4 at a time (which isnt much but, i get the hours in)

been playing online since june 2003 but didnt have PT (whatta n00b)