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#1
09-02-2005, 11:59 PM
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More fancy play, or proper exploitation of opponent aggression?
Party 2/4, 10 handed. I'm in the CO wih 33.
Preflop: 1 EP limper to me, I call. Button folds, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: 3 7 A rainbow SB bets, BB calls, EP raises. I call and the blinds call. Turn: T SB checks, BB bets, EP raises. I call, SB folds, BB calls. Am I playing this too wimpily? The board is rather drawless, so it seems safe to let the raises and overcalls build a pot. What do you think? 
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#2
09-03-2005, 12:22 AM
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Re: More fancy play, or proper exploitation of opponent aggression?
With an ace on board and that much action why not just keep raising as much as you can as long as you think your ahead?(which in my mind you most certainly are) You dont actually think these people will lay down A,3 or A,7 or A,10 and up do you? Let them pay you off by capping it on every street. As long as the board stays draw free and the ace doesn't pair on thr turn or river you should be capping it.
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#3
09-03-2005, 12:47 AM
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Re: More fancy play, or proper exploitation of opponent aggression?
I think the flop call is totally fine. Several might call two cold here but making it three will kill a lot of action.
Once you get to the turn, pop it up. The SB is very unlikely to call two cold anyway, so he's probably already out of the equation. If the first better folds when you three-bet, it's not that bad, because you'll likely be able to get it back from the raiser.
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#4
09-03-2005, 01:29 AM
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Re: More fancy play, or proper exploitation of opponent aggression?
3-bet the turn & let them pay off. And if the ace pairs I'm still going 4 bets on the river...it's far more likely your opponents have trip aces in that scenario than a better boat (especially on Party 2/4).
EDIT: not to confuse you, but on a higher limit and/or vs. better opponents than you'll typically have in a Party 2/4 game, I like the line you took. Go for the overcalls in that situation & don't overvalue bottom set against an EP limper who raises on consecutive streets. But in almost every SS game you'll run across, your opponents are just overplaying weaker hands and will gladly pay as many bets as you can lay on them to see your set.
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#7
09-03-2005, 01:34 AM
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Re: More fancy play, or proper exploitation of opponent aggression?
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Party 2/4, 10 handed. I'm in the CO wih 33. Preflop: 1 EP limper to me, I call. Button folds, SB completes, BB checks. Flop: 3 7 A rainbow SB bets, BB calls, EP raises. I call and the blinds call. Turn: T SB checks, BB bets, EP raises. I call, SB folds, BB calls. Am I playing this too wimpily? The board is rather drawless, so it seems safe to let the raises and overcalls build a pot. What do you think? [/ QUOTE ] I just call the flop, because there is nothing to protect against, but with all that action, I'm popping both of them on the turn.
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#8
09-03-2005, 01:36 AM
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Re: More fancy play, or proper exploitation of opponent aggression?
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Am I the only one that doesn't like this pf call at all? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not folding a pocket pair for 1 bet preflop, especially not from the CO with a limper already in the pot. And I don't think 33 is quite strong enough to warrant a raise there, although you could make the argument if the button & blinds are tight.
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#9
09-03-2005, 01:42 AM
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Re: More fancy play, or proper exploitation of opponent aggression?
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[ QUOTE ] Am I the only one that doesn't like this pf call at all? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not folding a pocket pair for 1 bet preflop, especially not from the CO with a limper already in the pot. And I don't think 33 is quite strong enough to warrant a raise there, although you could make the argument if the button & blinds are tight. [/ QUOTE ] You play pocket pairs to hit a set, when you hit the set you want to be payed off. you want a multiway pot. you don't have one. This is an instant fold and I'm pretty sure it's standard. Am I wrong?
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#10
09-03-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: More fancy play, or proper exploitation of opponent aggression?
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You play pocket pairs to hit a set, when you hit the set you want to be payed off. you want a multiway pot. you don't have one. This is an instant fold and I'm pretty sure it's standard. Am I wrong? [/ QUOTE ] With position in a small pot, you can often take the pot down with a bet when it's checked to you. You don't always have to improve your small pairs to win. SSH clearly advocates playing any pocket pair in an unraised pot from MP on (that's for tight games).
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